Awakened Imagination

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Welcome to the vibrant living network. Have you ever wondered what is possible beyond possible? What is the thing you've been wondering and inquiring about? Are you just feeling stuck and don't know why?

Are you thinking or are you seeing? Seeing allows us to expand and have this other experience. We want to invite you for that wake up call. We want to invite your spirit, your soul, so to be more alive, more connected.

Glen Brooks has been a life coach for over 33 years. Author of Divorced to Panance, Not Each Other. An explorer of what is possible. He has worked with people all around the world.

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And just the last part about being seen. Probably a big deal, being seen, being seen. Well, I want to welcome you to the format, the Viberland format. I'm really happy because we have a Vibern collaboration, a new team member today.

You'll be meeting her in a moment. She helps people bring out their language, their words, their story. It gives them a sense of purpose and meaning. And really, we have two kind of lives.

Really, we have this vibrant life, right? And then we have a counterfeit life that we kind of learn habits and what I call thought viruses that we go to. And the idea is when we become a vibrant, we actually begin to use our intelligence in our wisdom in a different way. We've been talking about awakened imagination today, awakened imagination, how to go beyond facts, figures, and linearness.

How to go beyond those things. It's a craft of new worlds, a Virginia world. I want to welcome Lisa LaRosa, the producer and co-host. She's been someone that has been a family member, a contributor to my life that I want to welcome you, Lisa.

Thank you, Glenn. Well, we decided that Lisa could have a new team member, a new vibrant collaboration. I want to thank our vibrant collaboration team, Andy Hoarda, a New York City of Greeners, Enterprise. He goes all our printing, and he does it in the most green, he'll go away, and we're going to be really excited to meet Sarah, who's our vibrant collaboration person that's going to help us with copying and bringing this message.

You know, Lisa, when I think about people, when they're really able to connect their message to other people, it's such a significant thing. Well, I want to get to the first, I want to get, Sarah, I want to get this thing about awakening imagination, and I want to say you're part of it. I want to say I want to tell people that I met you, because it's part of awakening imagination journey. So I went to attend a lecture when I was about 20, many years ago, because I felt that I was thinking in a very different way than when I experienced in the classroom and all around the classroom.

I felt like there was another whole level of thinking that was occurring that I couldn't describe. I felt there was something going on that was very different. And I would meet people, and they aged differently, and they moved differently. And I thought, what's going on with these people?

Because I'm curious about them. So I went to this lecture with Kevin Foley, and he told a story about this guy who would kill himself each night. But what happened was he was too tired to make it to the dock to kill himself. So the next night he would plan it again, and he would plan to take his own life.

But then what happened was that the fact that he would start to resonate better. So the quality of your life is the quality of your breath. The quality of your lovemaking is the quality of your shared breath. It's the big deal in our lives.

So we actually felt so much better in killing himself. And when I went over to see Kevin, he had recommended some books. And I started to read about imagination, and I started to realize, oh, the way to use imagination is you could see something that occurred in your life, and you could actually revision the imagination. So let's say for instance you got fired or something happened that was unpleasant.

You could revisit that. And the way to revision it is to sit vertical instead of right. It's an Excel three times and see the situation differently. This is see it differently.

And that begins to change your body and your breath. So with you, I started to see, I started to see, and I think somehow it's connected to a bigger mind, by the way. I think that when you use our imagination, it hooks us into it as a little call to a bigger mind or a cosmic mind. And so I thought, I really think that unless someone needs a team of writers and we need to get this message out about the vibrant looking network, it's very different.

We help people become speakers and kind of create their own careers. And so part of my imagination was I tuned into it. I saw it, I saw it coming in, and then I was reading about our product, an Apple Cider. What do they call it?

I'm threatening with our product. You know the name of it. The iconic product that has Apple's out of vinegar, Rohani, has a older variant. I thought this was a really good product.

I'm going to do a feature on this. And then I saw your name because I credited you, which you didn't know. So I want to welcome from Busy B. I want to welcome Sarah, who's got a wonderful last name.

I'm not an expert saying it. So why don't you say your last name and welcome? Sure. And thank you.

My name is Sarah LaHoulier. And I think what you're referring to is a shrub, is that the one? Oh, no, the one that was. Yeah, okay, it's website.

It's the one that has, it's a very, it's a call for a fighter. Oh, that's why you put fiery people. Oh my God, we went full circle. Yeah, when I messaged Sarah, it's really hilarious, right?

But yeah, that was a Glen language thing. Yes, I was thinking, fire something. I read fiery people and you had enough intuition and trust to contact me. So that's wonderful.

That's hilarious. Yeah, I had no idea what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah. Good.

You know, another part of this. I was going to say it's nice that you had enough faith and trust and followed your intuition and contacted the back. So thank you. Oh, sure.

Yeah, it was an adventure. You know, we just, we just wanted, we just said, or you just said both of you said, that part of a waking imagination and I make a waking imagination part of what I call the vibrant living challenge, which is a three month program for people who want to write a book, make a movie, become a speaker, how to create your own career. And it's really this relational imagination because I have people use imagination, seeing other people in different ways. So it's quite a, it's quite a, it sort of wakes people to those dimensions.

So what's happened through the years is people unexpectedly have done things that I could never figure out like this therapist came to see me to tell me a few different series of imagery for children. And at the end of the law, she says, by the way, she goes, I have this condo into the beach. Anytime you want to use it, use it. And so I started to see happened talking about waking imagination going around the world with facts and figures.

I would start to listen to people say facts and figures like this one guy told me, he said, why don't we never ever do this. We never, ever let you, we never let people review that kind of tire. And I said, really? So why don't I speak to this other guy who's like a president and they overnighted me the tires the next day.

And so I started to see that we have this mind that's kind of based on that faction figures and linearness. So a lot of times what people do is they kind of collapse. They don't even engage in something because they figure, well, you know, like this is a fact they can't or their times are factor. So in recent years, I've been playing with people on this notion, a lot I call a vertical leap or a leap beyond time, which is the idea that you can engage something fully.

And I realized when I first discovered this, it really was that people would show up in my life just like you did. They would show up in a way that they could, even if they didn't understand what I was talking about, they would just show up. So I just love it. So obviously you did Google me.

Yeah, I had to tell you before. I called you for your real person. I did get the fan. Yeah, good point.

I get a fair bit of a fan. I've judged you as not fan. Thank you. But at least we'll quote that for the website.

You know, fan. Right. Good. So what's happened in this new book called It's Called the Builder Effect.

And so what she's talking about, what we're going to have wrong, what we're talking about is that things like email and texting actually miss a significant part of the brain and a significant part of wisdom. And so what's interesting is sometimes I can feel people so deeply that, you know, we're surprised at something happens with the phone. They get totally lost. But I realize that's because we've been kind of training ourselves in a certain linear way, a certain way of using technology.

So how we use, how we use Awaken Imagination is on the first day I ask people to write down since our first three month program, our three month program we do with our hosts, the one of become speakers. We have events. We have people come and we also have people want to write books and make movies and also just be better coaches, better conduits, you know, in their lives. And they've ever really been around the environment where you cover each other's back and you kind of have a different breathing rhythm as well.

So I started, you know, I kind of studied this because I saw, I'll give you an example. I'll give you something that happened in my life. I had this vision when I was 19 that I wanted to play this exhibition match with the former number one tennis player because you're on the other. And I just saw it and I would see it.

But any time I would say it to certain people, they would tell me the facts. The facts would be I hadn't played at that level. The facts is that, you know, celebrities don't interact with people unless they're celebrity. A lot of facts.

So then I got around this guy, I think, Chantine Poitch. So Poitch was a guy with a small, very great, great happiness. And I met him through this model. And one of the things that she was saying to me is that she never paid attention to facts.

The facts always got in the way pretty much. So what Chantine was a person who researched all those things. Like, he researched like if they gave, they told the teacher they gave her all the, or here, her, the smartest kids. And they gave the kids weren't considered smart.

But they had the notion they were smart. They treated them very differently. So I started to see that there was, if you were used to being treated certain way and people thought they'd quote, quote, new you, they would reference you in a certain way. So I started to build this in, the awakened imagination because they saw the power and wonder of it.

So around the tennis thing. So after many, many resorts, they wouldn't do it. I was at one resort with Wish Mountain. And they had to be checked with 20,000 to produce an event they didn't really understand.

But we were intrigued by it. And I saw that in my imagination. Many, many times. Now I didn't realize that what would happen through a kind of crisis.

I saw how to use imagination in teams. Kind of how to build this into teams because oftentimes people start to let their thought viruses, they think they know something from their thought viruses. So thought viruses are like things people believe, but they have really questions. You know, from whether it's a blue season to if you don't have to start a little education or work, you're not able to do certain things.

So I thought, well, those are pretty con-thars viruses. But what would happen if you worked in a, well, you discovered, you were playing an interacting with other people, there's another level. So that's why I came up with the living challenge. And then I had something happen in my life where I had a, you know, what I call relational tsunami.

And I started to use my imagination again and people would show up in my life, in my life. Kind of again. And so here it is. There's a linear time pattern that most people buy into, which is a horizontal pattern.

A horizontal has a certain feel here in people's voices. It's kind of that non-enthusiastic. This is the way things are. Kind of voice.

And then there's this other vertical spruillic thing. You can see in people's walks and breaths. I presented it Harvard on this, by the way. I want to brag about that.

I presented it Harvard with people on the world. They were talking about how movement changes the brain. So I thought, wow, just when people get a sense of, when they can see their imagination, they could be an expression, or they could change their body. And so I call it vibrant speaking.

And again, I guess it's Sarah. I wonder, of course, at doing your work, you already, how much do you relate to what I'm saying in terms of your work with people as a writer and working with people in the world or passion and what I'm saying? Like in your world, as I'm speaking, and we were classmates. Was you related to what I'm saying about you with three minutes of each of our room or something?

Or was it, how much you relate to and your concurrent what I'm sharing here? Oh, yeah. I definitely relate to it very well. And I tend to, most of my clients that I work with on writing and projects, they're people that are really passionate about what they're doing.

They have a great deal of imagination. And they, that's kind of, I mean, you've seen my website. Either you look at it and you're like, this is not for me. Or you're like, yes, you speak my language.

Like I just want for people to be able to be themselves, whoever that is, to attract the right people that they want to work with. I mean, a lot of my clients are coaches or they're in the creative industry. You can hear it. Like I had a, I'll never forget it.

I had a kickoff meeting with a client last year, I think. And it was me and the graphic designer that I worked with and this woman, and we were all crying on the call. Like this woman got so excited about what she was doing and she's a coach as well. And she just, we were all just in tears talking to each other because we've got on the same level, you know, the vibrational level of being with each other.

And it was so much easier to work with people like that for me. I know it can be a challenge too because there's so many emotions involved in it. And that's just a lot of navigation. I've been doing it for a long time.

So it's easier now. For sure. Yeah, I think there's like the monotone. This is the world and then there's the vertical of like, this is what I'm excited about.

And this is what could be. And this is what I wish would be, but I'm scared to hope that it exists. So it's my job to say it exists and we'll find it and we'll do it. But you have to be honest.

I love it. So my vision with you is to fill our vibrant living challenge, our three month program with our, with our, our waking imagination, with our vibrant speaking, our hosting program. I, I, I vision that you'll be able to deliver the language with me and bring us to another whole level as well as I'm ready to bring it now at Instagram person to use some of the social media. Yes.

I mean, I'm ready to do this collaborative demonstration during that. I want to, I know what I want to share with you. I want to share with you something happening yesterday. I'm thinking you and Lisa might relate to him.

Maybe not. So, so six, so six years ago when I was in the midst of this relational tsunami, what I mean by that, I was totally devastated. My, my deep love partner, she was departing. And it was the most confusing, perplexing thing is around my world.

I had all kinds of people, you know, say they would assist us. I'm really amazing. Wonder is people. And I couldn't, I couldn't bridge the gap.

You know, bridging the gap and being able to be a vertical world. It gives you your body and your imagination of the whole level. We'll explore that with Sarah and Lisa LaRose. You listen to the vibrant living network of life brushes.

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We're vertical thinking and vision and, you know, relationalness. It's one of the topics that are upcoming big event in Vermont. I'm June, we're going to have this wonderful event, you're going to be the star, Lisa's going to be the Vibreant Speakers. Hi, I am.

So, good. I wanted to invite you ahead of time that you're already there. I see you there. Okay.

Welcome. Oh, I know what I want to share. See, we talked about emotions. And I want to say a big thank you, Lisa.

It's so wonderful when I come out. I don't have, I come at Lisa, I feel like really like soaring, just being so moved to communicate something and she's so kind that she'll listen and help me bring this. She's got one of these wondrous abilities to deal with many learning styles and to be kind, no matter what, beautiful quality. So what happened two weeks ago, Sarah and Lisa was, I met, he's not here today.

I don't believe it. So, we used from Men-Lan. Men-Lan is one of the significant centers where people go to replenish. They go to become more conscious.

Some of the former teachers around the world, and was founded by Robert Thurmond's dad who's a Buddhist scholar. And it's so honored in this collaboration with Nate. So, what came to fruition was, we told Nate about divorced patterns, not each other. Divorced patterns not each other.

And I shared with him my vision. A lot of times people divorced because of habit, a lot of viruses. The whole culture of individualisticness and not relationalness. Very useful.

You won't pick up a magazine today, it's about we-ness. You're going to pick up a whole bunch of articles about empowerment but not relational power. empowerment but not relational power. I shared my vision when they need set the dates and he sent me the right of the other day.

He said the dates that Dr. Tash is going to be there and I saw it and I really, I just felt so, I just felt really emotional. I felt wow. I saw the first right of the voice of the panelists and not each other which will get a copy of Sarah came to me at like one in the morning after 14 nights of having what I call soulseeing.

I just saw the situation in a very different way. I started to see it and see it and I can now see more colors in life and I had this other whole sense of couple which is totally, and I wrote this and one of the first people I shared it with was Dr. Martha Hackett in Ohio. I read this door.

She's a medical doctor and that does work with energy. And she said, there's nothing written like this. This is really neat because I didn't divorce my husband 10 years ago. Even though at the time he didn't work, he was an alcoholic.

I saw the on that. So when I saw this comment and it's going to be at Menlaw, it just felt like, wow, there's a lot of times you know vision is calm. You see things. You have no idea.

Right? So I want the vibrant living challenge to be places where people put grounds to find to be able to tell the story and to tell other people, you know, listen to it in a way that brings another dimension. I haven't grounds it. And also around speaking, I feel like most of the scripted speaking and rehearsed speaking so gets in the way of the part of people's deep message.

So the last thing we did, we had everyone there. No matter what degree the comment and I'm there with it all went beyond the script. No matter what dedication, finance, whatever it was. So here you are, Sarah.

What's the thing that here you are. I want to be able to demonstrate something with you on the air off the air. That's so wondrous and delicious. So what and I want to be able to let Andy in on this at your attention price because he deals with so many people that want to be on a greener healthier planet and they want they want to do business with someone who's the most environmental print shop in the country.

I never met anybody like I'm psyched to introduce you to him. I'm psyched to introduce you to Maureen. So what's the thing? What's the thing that I got the Viber Living Challenge?

I have this network. You know, I did a series of Gary Vintse Vega, one of them pretty renowned copywriter. I see you on our team is helping bring out these stories and this opportunity in a way that's distinct. One of a kind.

Do you see yourself there? Sure. Okay. What are you curious about?

From anything I've said, what's the thing that structured curiosity? I think I'm curious about how you leave the program and if you were in a group only or one on one or how does that work to be working together? What's the format? I'm so happy you asked me a couple questions.

So how is that helpful? She says she says, go on, she goes, can you fully love a Latin woman? I thought, wow, that's a simple question. And you consider that.

So thank you for that. So I started to work with groups organically. It just seemed like there was something about a group like I need someone like Lisa and I think, oh, I want to introduce to this person like Andy. And I started to feel like, wow, there's something that happens when we don't compete.

But we actually use the power of what I call a vibrant collaboration. So we have a far prosperity. So I started to do this pretty regularly. And when companies would hire me like Kyle LaPauk in Alma and Charlie Fox got a few sets of incredible human beings.

He was pretty non-linear. He says, then we want to give you $20,000 to open up Atlanta. He goes, go open Atlanta. He goes, that's our usual contract.

And I said, I use what country. He says, yeah, he goes, our products don't magic us. He got to live a happy life, care for people, move every day and breathe. And he could take Kyle like a good immune system lover.

So we had such a great time. So I called Charlie up. I hear about a doctor, this doctor, who I developed a pretty strong relationship. He was an off the peak surgeon.

He was a breast cancer. And she did a video called Cancer Doesn't Scare Me Anymore, back on the brain day. And so Charlie flies out the next day. So I see what happens is when people aren't competing, they get more smart together.

Something else that happens. So I started to do these groups. And then there were some people, you know, that we just want to do these one-on-one sessions. And I realized as far as the one-on-one session, I started to get this on my paper route.

I would listen to people who I noticed their eyes would change. I could see much sparkle in their eyes. And I could see they would respect it differently. So as a pioneer and a fellow like coaching, I started to notice, okay, the body is significant.

When the body comes along, you can see something. And then when I had my relational anomaly, I realized, oh, couples. You know, couples have everything right there. They can be everything is so in a couple.

And what happened, you know, and I want to focus on the solution, but we got so carried away with all the self improvement and all this empowerment stuff, we didn't realize that there would impact the weenas of things. So I work with the group. I work with about 6,100 people. It's three months.

And we practice these practices. And how it starts off is everybody asks the question, what's possible, the impossible? What's possible? And everybody's got a vibrant vision book.

And you all get a partner and you have access to the whole group. And the idea is in the outer world, for the most part, people are going to give you these facts. They're going to give you like, oh, it's on a time. You don't have enough degrees.

They're going to give you all this what I call terminal normality nonsense, terminal normality nonsense. It's just there. So I also ask people to stand up and say like, what's different? You know, I met this one with mantra.

Mantra had no money. It's in a movie script. One day, my mantra got a million dollars for that movie script. Which is the way this little necklace would say, you know, beyond everything, trust God or something.

And I would meet people like that. And I would see them. And I think, wow, what would, why is it that people in this world, how do they go beyond that terminal normality beat to this other place together? So I thought people have relational journals, not solo journals.

I'm just coming out with journal for couples called the vibrant, it's called the vibrant journal for couples. I want to build coupleness. Everybody, okay, we can, you could be massively self-improved and divorce your car. And we already got that one.

Something very different. So it's a three month, and we check in twice a week. And then in some cases, we have get-togethers. And what I decided to do with these events, these speakers, vibrant speakers, events, is have people come together at the events and speak on the thing that moves them the most.

And then from the inside, the other thing I noticed, at least in time, was that there was something really magical when the speakers got together. Like they encourage each other because they're in the same dojo. The dojo where we honor each other, we give reverence to each other. And people would say things like this, one came on the line one day.

We had a series of how to man for the media for our speakers. And she had a great English voice. You know, she was a certain kind of function. She did this placement therapy.

She would go to people's homes. But she had this great voice. And so I said, you know, I bet you could make another whole level of income doing child stories. So she got, that was a tipping point for her.

She started her child's children stories. So we had this environment in the vibrant living challenge. It's really about listening to the listening, listening to the listening. And I learned that from the former financial ambassador of Chile when he was helping the firing squad.

He talked about his human being, he had the ability to listen to the listening. So you step back from what you step back and notice. And for him, how he stepped back and noticed is when they had loaded their machine cuts, he stepped back and he noticed them. And he said, there was a brief moment, he called a human moment.

We didn't kill him. And what I do is I practice, I practice helping people, if you will, detoxify our freedom self, the soft virus so they can listen from this other world, from a world of open questions, which is so rare for adults, open questions, curiosity. And then we have practices. So we have movement practices, we have writing practices, and we share this with each other.

And people craft talks. And we have conference meetings, video meetings, and we have get togethers. And also along that line, we have these driving collaborations like you, sir, where organically we form. We basically come together beyond trading, beyond exchanging, ground bothering to a new world of prosperity.

And also the other things that are significant, and Lisa, is working a lot less. I don't believe it's supposed to be you're overworking. So the amount of good amount for me is that people become underwhelmed and more in tune with each other. And so that's what the vibrant living challenges, yeah, and people do people, I have clients that work.

I work with couples and families as well, and single people. And so I've been doing it, I've been doing it very organically. And this whole thing that happened in my life, I discovered on some level, I did a matchmaker, but I became what I call a vibrant intimacy matchmaker, which we're going to kind of dive into in the next segment. I'm going to be looking to meet Nate.

Can I answer your question? Oh, wait over time on this. Can you believe it? I want to introduce you to someone.

I want to introduce you to someone. That's a pretty significant person, you know, because I started out talking about a waking imagination, a waking imagination. So when I was in this relational tsunami, and I really dove into like, what's this world? What's a world beyond divorce and division?

What's a world beyond? You have an opinion about someone, you think you know someone, and my joke at the time, my funny idea was it seems like your partner knows better than anybody else that you need medication rather than anybody else. So I heard about Dr. Teshna, and she was helping people kind of remove these when I might call a broad virus from your body.

And I had a vision at the time that I would make this film. That was only what was happening. After a year and a half, I was starting to see that this could seem like such a catastrophe was opening up in another whole way. And that's when divorce the patterns came in.

And I went to meet Dr. Teshna. I actually drove six hours to meet her. Six hours a week I would drive to see her to do this work because I realized, honestly, that most people don't move on when they break up and divorce.

They say they are, but no, they sell this significant thing, and they become more harsh, more rigid. Right? So I decided as I was developing things, I would develop something called the XSE bonds, which I thought was pretty cool. And I started to travel to meet people who were studying, studying at these different levels of intimacy.

So I want to welcome Dr. Teshna. I want to introduce you to Sarah, our new visionary writer, Busy B running. And of course, Lisa, Teshna, sorry, I went over a little bit there.

I got carried away for a second. Hi. Hi. Yes.

Hi. So why would you like me to share? Well, I thought I would, I thought it would be interesting for you to share, because I want to introduce you to of course, Sarah, who's Busy B copywriting. She helps people get people who are passionate, like us, kind of message us on our team.

Lisa's here. He says, I want to ask you, I think, pretty significant. So when I started to work on the play with this film idea, I was able to get I can teach her in the world to work with us, Eric Morris. I was going to give a doctor, I don't know why.

And Marilyn Horowitz, who by the way, studying this awakening imagination, or she's a professor at NYU, just want to ask you. So a lot of people conclude their lives based on the belief that they believe, they believe in, they believe in their beliefs. So they come to you feeling they're just devastated or feeling that they can never accomplish like Rita, who's become so close by the way to us, who said when she was in Russia and had this kind of sexual trauma, she never thought she could be close to a man or 40 after working with you. She said she's more close and intimate than she ever imagined.

So I guess what I want to ask you since we're talking about awakened imagination, maybe share with a couple of stories of people that would come to you where they were working to something they never thought they could have or experience. Maybe give us a feel for that. I thought that would be kind of cool. Well, you know, because it's not as an experience to work and Lisa hasn't, but I really, as a lot of people, a good story might be able to, because you do something really distinct and I'm so happy you're on your team and here you are.

Sorry, time. Yep. Well, there's so many different reasons people come to see me. Everything from somebody that broke up with someone or divorced someone, sometimes it's a week ago, sometimes it's 10 years ago, but even when it's 10 years, sometimes the hurt is still there just as if it just happened.

And every time they think about it, they get teary and they get all stressed out. And so I was able to help a number of people get over that by working with them with the any teen or emotional technique that I use in my office to help them free themselves up from that stress that comes up, literally getting it out of the body through the meridian system. And that's very powerful. So when you take one who's been hurting, unable to be another relationship ever since because of all the hurt and everything, and then you get them through that.

So they're totally okay. And then you help them on the other side to manifest what they really want. That's really exciting. And so I've seen that with a number of people in my practice that have been coming in so that I can help them with that.

You know, I want to be very specific. I want to invite Sarah. You're going to be our curiosity. I want, what are you curious about?

What Tetchid has said? What are you the most curious about? Because you don't know, we probably don't know what normal motion will take. But what do you most curious about?

What would you want to ask? Tetchin. More about that? Okay, let's do it.

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For the autoimmune hour on Life Interrupted Radio, find out how to live your life uninterrupted. So, it's almost like a pretty popular thought virus. So, one thing I was excited about with Tetchin. It was a place that people could go and really see what would happen if they could experience the love and the connection beyond the build-up resentment and non-forgiveness which usually tsunamis and breakups and forces.

And by the way, it's reinforced. Most self-help international channels don't seem to get to something fairly profound about weenas and biological spiritual parents. So, Tetchin, why don't you walk us through your office and give us a feel, give us our feel for like if you didn't know what normal, the moral, the least method of therapy was. Just, what's it like when someone comes there, a couple or a single person, let's focus on relationship because that's the topic of hand.

Let's say they come in their relationship catastrophe. What's the first thing you would do physically with them or ask them? Yeah. Well, when I work with couples, I have a couple rooms that have two tables in it.

So, I have them each laid down on one of the tables. And then I will ask, for example, like I say they're having difficulties and that's letting them nuts about each other in a bad way. So, then I'll find out. Okay.

So, what is it? I'll ask the woman, for example. Okay. So, what is it that's like your cop stressor with your husband?

And she'll say, well, it's because he criticizes me all the time. Okay? So, then I'll test her for, I can let go of the belief that love and life mean being criticized. And sure enough, she goes weak on that.

So, I use muscle testing to find out if the body is congruent or not with what they're saying. So, when you muscle test someone and they say a statement, like let's say if they said I am a woman and the person is a woman, she should remain strong on that. If she says I'm a man, she will go weak on that because her whole body or her whole being, her subconscious knows that she's incongruent with being a man but she's congruent with being a woman. So, you can use the same methods for any statement.

So, when somebody tells me that what's driving them nuts is being criticized all the time, that gives me a clue that that's part of their belief system because we always get attracted to the people that will fit our belief system. So, if the woman believes love and life means being criticized, she'll be attracted to critical men. It's just the way it is. And the men usually believe that love and life means criticizing the people he loves because he learned when he was a little boy that that's how you show your love that you care, is you criticize when you see something you don't like because you're trying to improve the person or whatever.

And so, sure enough, you know, then I will test them on I can go to believe that love and life mean criticizing people I love and he goes weak on that. So, they have a marriage made in heaven. You see because their belief system matches each other on the subconscious level. A conscious leading may not like that and they may not want that but subconsciously they do and that's why they were attracted to each other.

And it goes on down the line for all the different aspects of their relationship. So, then what I do is I use the technique, the neuromotional technique, to help clear that. And it's using the meridian system. We hold different points and hold the forehead and let them breathe out that feeling or that belief or the emotions that come up when I test for it.

And then after that, when they're done clearing it, then I retest and I'll test it on the same statement, I can go to believe that love and life mean being criticized. And now she's going to be strong because we just released that. And then what I'll do is I'll have her say the opposite thing. So, I'll have her say I can allow myself to believe that love and life mean being accepted as I am and make sure that she's strong on that so that she can now allow herself to be accepted as she is instead of being criticized and still feel loved.

And then I do the corresponding clearing on her husband. So, I clear him on I can let go of the belief that love and life mean criticizing and then at the end I have him test with I can allow myself to believe that love and life mean accepting the people I love as they are. Did you see? You cleared that.

Then there's a lot less criticism going on. Do you find that people need more than one session on this to kind of get everything worked out or are there people that just come once and then it's one and done? Well, as far as like particularly like that belief system about the criticism, you only need to do it once. But there might be other issues.

You see? So usually it's a combination of issues. So, like when somebody comes in, I will clear as many issues as I can. So, like, you know, if I do a half hour session, I might be able to clear at least like maybe I don't know like six seven different issues in a half an hour.

So, it's pretty fast once I get into it, you know, and when I clear, I and when I have both of them in the room, I'll test a woman and I have her clear her stuff while I go and test the man so I go back and forth so I can do twice as much work instead of doing half an hour just with her and then half an hour just with him. I do half an hour and I work on both of them at the same time. Cool. That sounds really powerful.

Yes, it's really cool. And I've never had to clear the same thing twice so far and I've done it for many, many years. And once that's clear, that's clear, the pattern is cleared. So, then I have to, okay, so what's the next thing that's bugging you?

And then you tell me and then we start working on that one. And we just keep doing that. And as we do that, the charge between the partners starts to be less because they don't have so much things that are affecting them. So, instead of being like on the scale of 1-100, the stress is over 100, the stress starts to go down.

It goes down to maybe 50 after a session like that. So, now there's more potential for them to be able to re-consulate or be able to get along and be willing to come for another session. So, then we clear more stuff. So, then the stress goes down even more like maybe 25 on the scale of 0-100.

And you just keep doing that until they feel like they can handle it again as a couple. So, that's very powerful. The thing is, I was going to ask, if you ever work with parents and children in the same way? Absolutely.

It works for any kind of relationship. Is there a certain age that you find would be, how young is too young to start this? Well, I mean, I've done, I've done, I've done, I've done, I've done, I've done, I've done, I've done, I've done, I've done, I've done, I've done, I've done, I've done, I've done, right after birth using the mother of the surrogate. Wow.

Yeah. Yeah. Very cool. So, when I put, when I put the voice of parents, not each other together, I just, I was so, I was so, I kind of saw there was this other whole, I don't know, like, I saw our universe beyond what was being, what was being shown to me.

And I just, I, on the inside, I had a neural surgeon, Dr. Norm Sheerly, whose life had just passed away after 56 years. And I asked him about this. I, we were doing a series on essential oils.

And I realized it was, as I really became clear that I wanted to do this, one of, this very, one of a kind matchmaking, this vibrant, matchmaking I called vibrant intimacy now, matchmaking, that I also wanted to help people match, who would marry before to help them marry again. Because I really, for the most part, a lot of people, they divorce out of such deficit and division and habitually. So, one day Norm called me and told me he developed a lot of products called air bliss, which changes the brain in 30 seconds. So, I realized, ah, when I work with couples, I would have something in conjunction like what Natasha's doing, I have resources that would be able to get people a vision of love, a vision of deep ecstasy, a partnership and weenas that they've never had before.

They didn't have a family of origin, and they didn't have it in their, in their marriage. They didn't really have a vibrant marriage. They didn't even have a vision for vibrant marriage. So, I realized after people cleared stuff, that in some sense of matching and having depth would be the next level of relationship.

And I also got together with this guy who's running around the world, his research on the brain. And he was writing a book on the relational brain. And I realized with the, over the last 30 years with all the self-improvement, transformational stuff, it was so missing a weenas. So, I looked at this guy's work, it's called an integral paradigm.

It's studying how, how, is an example of people change their lives by doing different things, whether it's meditating or fitness or dietary changes. The weakest part of the, the weakest part of the whole system for most people is relationships. That was where they, they didn't really know how to practice. So, at the deepest level, like in the divorce patterns on each other, the physical book is a chapter called from Betrayes to be loved together, visit chapter on the ecstasy bond.

And also, I started to learn that the way that people are in their relational system, like as an example, a lot of people would make the children more relevant and important than their marital partner. Well, actually relational friends will show you, you need to make your health a part, always number one. That goes to the children. So, I started to discover things.

And so, I felt like, wow, we should do a little more job for people already meditating, but the thing is a lot of people meditate in a solo way. They don't meditate really. So, I felt like at the deepest level, I wanted to make this available. And also, of course, I got to meet couples with that remarried.

I got to meet couples that experience this vibrant marriage and this vibrant relating, which had to do with going beyond dating, dating was the worst thing that came along. And they people, you know, dating is like a domesticated kind of like, it's like processed food. There was no education awareness of what it takes. How do you relate to someone and deepen that connection?

And dating, the dating role is so full of caution and fear. So, that's kind of how I, when I met Tasha, I felt like this, she was going to be a significant part of this. And then my whole life had shifted because now I was planning on things like relational imagination, had a couple of user imagination together. And my orientation was from the transformation, what was so much about just you, just me.

They're very little about the impact of how we transform a whole life, relationally. So, you know, meeting you, Sarah, meeting Tasha, meeting Lisa, started with a relational thing. And then, of course, of course, because I've done so many shows, I've done a whole series on people totally themselves, the Parkinson's. And what was the lesson there?

Well, one of the lessons was, and I just, I just came back from Harvard, is that people that, I'm going to take a scientific leap here. That people that actually rest and that have delicious sex on a regular basis, that sets up their neurality for trusting life and sets up their souls very different. So, I like to focus on like, what is it that actually initiates the vibrancy? It's not, it makes sense that if people feel frightened, then they get more frightened.

It disturbs their system on a regular basis to the point where it shakes and it moves differently. So, the bigger question was, okay, what's vibran trust in relationship? How do you, how could you be in a relationship where you could experience ecstasy? Because to experience actually together and have this experience over this religious exercise, you need to be this level where it's like to get, you could reveal yourself to each other.

I might call this unscripted love. So, I felt like Tasha had one thing that would benefit people for family because when I looked at the field, I thought the field was funny enough, individuals like therapy for the most part is harmful to your relationship. Now, most people don't know that. It's fairly simple.

When you work with a system, it's very different than when you're working just with one person. It's independent of all the people who think I know a lot about someone's own comment, which I take on that, sir. Oh, yes. That was a lot.

That was a long way. I hope that's just to love me after I said all that. Let's see. I'll test myself.

That's just to love me. Of course. Yeah. Thank you, Tasha.

Dr. I was just looking at your website while he was talking. Oh, come tell people what a website is. We're going to have the information about what we're doing on one of the time we get.

You guys get the experience Tasha and it's going to be out of this world over at the Menless Center. So, what do you do to show them? What is it? Tell people what it is.

It's Dr. Tasha. Come on, correct? Yes.

Right now, there's a lot of information about the next workshop that I'm teaching right now. It's going to be in November at Mediby in Stillsdale, New York. But then we're going to do one in June at Menla in Catskills. And that one is going to be with Len.

And it's not on my website because we just decided to date yesterday morning. Oh, yes. Yes. Any more about your bookers on here?

Yeah. And your picture is so colorful. I love it. It's great.

She's like a rock star. I watched her present at work Apollo. She actually said she was a rock star. You know what I mean?

You said, do you say, do you sing a dance? You said yes, but that's another topic. But you're great. I love how you presented that day.

I don't really people were just sitting there like melting. They loved it. Yeah, it was fun. I love teaching.

I love speaking in front of people. And that's like my thing. I love to share what I have to offer so I can help their lives. Yeah.

We just got to, we just got to, we just got a minute ago. I want Lisa to share something. Lisa, share something. Don't we put you on the spot?

I apologize. Anything. Exactly. Thank you.

No, I so appreciate Dr. Tasha. And one of the things we didn't really get to speak about is actually being able to do something you never thought you could before. But I know that in your practice and working with individuals that you discover that every day.

So thank you for your work. You're welcome. All right. I want to welcome Sarah to the team.

Love you a lot, Tasha. I appreciate your work so deeply. Lisa, thank you for being every patient and willing to go to the next level. And thank you all for listening as we expand our vibrant living network.

Chris, thank you. If you like questions, enjoy it. I'm Glenn Brooks. Be with you next time.