Awakening a Forest Sense: Grief, Mystery, and the Reformation of Faith with Michael Ellick

In this conversation, Victoria Loorz and pastor-activist Michael Ellick explore the lifelong dance between wilderness, spirit, and faith. Michael shares stories of his mystical childhood in the forests of Washington—his first teacher in wonder and interconnection—and how that early “forest sense” eventually brought him through disillusionment with the church into a deeper, embodied Christianity. Together they reflect on grief, reciprocity, and the call to live as part of creation rather than separate from it. From the undulating forest floor to Holy Saturday’s sacred grief, from ancient language to feminine images of the divine, this dialogue traces a hopeful reformation of faith rooted in relationship, wildness, and love.Michael Ellick is the Lead Minister at University Congregational United Church of Christ in Seattle. A former community organizer and early leader in the Occupy movement, he works to help faith communities confront racism, colonialism, and disconnection from the natural world. Trained in comparative religion, philosophy, and depth psychology, he integrates insights from Christian, Buddhist, and Indigenous traditions in his ministry and teaching.Connect with Michael: Website: universityucc.orgPodcast: Gospel of Direct ExperienceMentioned in the episode:Gary Snyder essay on reinhabitationRomans 8Gospel of ThomasConnect with the Center:Website: wildspirituality.earthVictoria's Website: victorialoorz.comEmail: [email protected]: linktr.ee/ctrforwildspiritualityInstagram: @center_for_wild_spiritualityTimestamps:0:00 Introduction7:28 The Land Who Raised Michael9:20 Big Rock10:56 Forest Sense14:25 Coming Out Into the Wild15:50 Language to Speak Of18:24 What It Means to Be of a Place20:25 Swapping Image for the Real Thing22:56 Trained in Reciprocity26:10 There Is an If in Romans 830:50 Separation Is Part of It34:17 Open to Grief40:19 Trickster Coyote44:45 Shifts from the Inside Edges50:08 The New Story55:53 Wild Invitation59:34 Credits