'Bachelorette' S12e2 With Sharleen Joynt, Sarah Gertrude Shapiro, & Carol Barbee

This week, hosts Claire Fallon and Emma Gray recap the second episode of Season 12. We'll discuss the appeal of firefighters, why "The Bachelorette" is TV's greatest sport and Chad's hot garbage MRA tendencies with opera singer, writer and former "Bachelor" contestant Sharleen Joynt. Later in the show, Emma & Claire talk to Lifetime's "UnREAL" co-creator Sarah Gertrude Shapiro and showrunner Carol Barbee about the second season of the show and how race plays out on reality TV. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.