EPISODE · Jun 23, 2026 · 17 MIN
BAD1 Special: The Gorillas Founder Is Building 100,000 Companies With AI — Kagan Sumer
from Founder Mode · host Feliks Eyser
Kagan Sumer founded Gorillas, Europe's fastest unicorn. Now he's building a digital factory that spits out companies, with the goal of launching 100,000 of them in three years and giving students ownership as solo entrepreneurs. In this conversation he explains why he thinks now is not the best time to build, how he got stuck in the build trap for eight months and climbed back out, and what Rocket Internet would do today with AI. You also get a look at his digital clone.Timestamps:00:00 - The Vibe at the BAD1 Conference00:45 - Kagans Wow-Moment with AI01:56 - How Kagan got into AI: just rebuilding Lovable04:11 - Too much opportunity: the build trap05:03 - How he got out of the build trap: one boring project09:30 - What Rocket Internet would do today with AI11:16 - The digital factory: 100,000 companies in three years13:00 - His digital clone that works for him14:19 - AI's monetization problem Kagan Sumer's Links:💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kagansumer💻 Nutz Inc.: https://nutz.inc🔗 More Founder Mode:📺 All episodes: www.foundermode.show💬 Founder Mode Community: https://chat.whatsapp.com/F4hnoTUICPYKAWXkE1hfYp?mode=gi_t🔔 Subscribe for weekly founder stories
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Kagan Sumer founded Gorillas, Europe's fastest unicorn. Now he's building a digital factory that spits out companies, with the goal of launching 100,000 of them in three years and giving students ownership as solo entrepreneurs. In this conversation he explains why he thinks now is not the best time to build, how he got stuck in the build trap for eight months and climbed back out, and what Rocket Internet would do today with AI. You also get a look at his digital clone.Timestamps:00:00 - The Vibe at the BAD1 Conference00:45 - Kagans Wow-Moment with AI01:56 - How Kagan got into AI: just rebuilding Lovable04:11 - Too much opportunity: the build trap05:03 - How he got out of the build trap: one boring project09:30 - What Rocket Internet would do today with AI11:16 - The digital factory: 100,000 companies in three years13:00 - His digital clone that works for him14:19 - AI's monetization problem Kagan Sumer's Links:💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kagansumer💻 Nutz Inc.: https://nutz.inc🔗 More Founder Mode:📺 All episodes: www.foundermode.show💬 Founder Mode Community: https://chat.whatsapp.com/F4hnoTUICPYKAWXkE1hfYp?mode=gi_t🔔 Subscribe for weekly founder stories
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