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EPISODE · Jan 23, 2026 · 53 MIN

Balancing artificial and human intelligence - with Jon Whittle

from We Not Me · host Jon Whittle, Dan Hammond, Pia Lee

In a working world where the conversation is increasingly dominated by AI, we need to consciously prioritise human connection and old-school practices, like face-to-face conversations, physical books, and time for deep thinking, to avoid becoming trapped in a cycle of constant acceleration that ultimately undermines our wellbeing and what makes us fundamentally human.Jon Whittle is the former CEO of CSIRO's Data61, Australia's national AI research and development centre. He led a team of around 500 scientists, engineers and support staff across Australia. Jon’s working is transitioning to helping organisations understand and adopt AI in an effective, human-centred way, particularly with boards and leadership teams.Three reasons to listenTo reframe AI adoption around human needs rather than pure efficiencyTo discover the risks of outsourcing human connection to AIAo learn how to adopt old-school practices that preserve your humanityEpisode highlights[00:10:24] Leading hundreds of scientists and engineers[00:13:14] What it means to be human in an AI world[00:23:25] The danger of sharing problems with AI rather than other humans[00:31:33] What Jon has learned from classical Indian dance[00:36:18] AI for Business[00:39:55] Jon's media recommendation[00:42:06] Takeaways from Pia and DanLinksConnect with Jon via LinkedInAI for Business – Jon’s bookCSIRO presents: Everyday AI – Jon’s podcastTurning Down the Noise – Jon’s media recommendationTrack and improve your team performance with SquadifyLeave us a voice note

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