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EPISODE · Dec 22, 2025 · 1H 38M

Bears Still Suck, Johnson Too | Packers Therapy #497

from Packers Talk · host Chris Richards, Dave Erickson

The Packers didn’t just lose to the Bears.They carefully assembled a win, admired it for most of the afternoon, and then systematically dismantled it in front of everyone.Packers Therapy #497 — “Bears Still Suck, Johnson Too” is Chris and Dave trying to make sense of a collapse that felt both shocking and completely predictable. The kind of loss where, by the time it actually happens, you’re not even surprised—just tired.It starts with the moment the air left the building: Jordan Love getting knocked out on a hit that somehow didn’t eject the guy who delivered it. The offense stalls, the mood turns, and suddenly we’re all holding our breath wondering whether Malik Willis can keep the wheels on. Spoiler: he mostly does. Which, in true Packers fashion, only makes what comes next hurt more.From there, it’s a parade of self-inflicted wounds:Multiple red-zone trips, zero touchdowns, because the Packers now treat the goal line like it’s cursed ground.A Jacobs goal-line fumble that felt less like bad luck and more like destiny.Play-calling that oscillates between terrified and incoherent the moment things get tight.And of course, special teams showing up late just to light the remaining hope on fire, capped by an onside kick sequence that had all the suspense of a slow-motion car crash.Meanwhile, the Bears are doing Bears things. They still suck. They still can’t get out of their own way. Ben Johnson’s bizarre gadget nonsense manages to backfire spectacularly—and somehow, the Packers still can’t take advantage. When even the opponent’s stupidity doesn’t save you, that’s when you know you’re in real trouble.Chris and Dave don’t sugarcoat it:This wasn’t about talent.This wasn’t about effort.This was about execution collapsing under pressure, discipline evaporating, and a team that still hasn’t learned how to close.There’s humor, because there has to be. There’s anger, because it’s earned. And there’s that familiar, sinking realization that we’ve all seen this movie before—and the Packers keep insisting the ending will be different next time.It isn’t.At least not yet.Packers Therapy is here for the fans who watched every snap anyway, who knew exactly where this was headed, and who still need someone to say it out loud:Yes.That was brutal.And no—you’re not crazy for being mad about it.Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/packerstherapyPayPal: [email protected] its first show in 2005, Packers Therapy is the longest-running Packers podcast on the Internet. Hosts Chris and Dave began the show as a way of capturing the spirited chats the two co-workers had about the team around the office. The two have no pretense about being experts: they are just two opinionated shareholders who love the team, follow it closely, but don’t always see the Packers fortunes eye to eye.The guys encourage comments and questions via their Twitter feed @PackersTherapy or email to [email protected] and read and respond to as many as they can during each show.Packers Therapy is a part of the Packers Talk family of podcasts, serving up five distinct podcasts to satisfy the most fervent of Packer fans. Variety is the spice of life, so subscribe to Packers Talk on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also follow Packers Talk on Twitter and Facebook. 

Bears still suck… but the Packers found a new way to collapse anyway. Chris and Dave unpack the late unraveling, Love’s concussion, Willis’ relief, red-zone futility, special teams chaos, and Ben Johnson’s absurd misfire in Packers Therapy #497.

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