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Together we will blaze a new trail. We will be the envy of the world. Because as a people, as a province, our potential is limitless. I got used to that voice, the new premier of the province of Ontario, Doug Ford.
Doug Ford, the new premier of Ontario. If you'd said that a year ago, people would have taken your temperature and your blood pressure. Now there are other people who, well, blood pressure is probably in a spasfiric, dangerous situations. Michelle Simpson is a former liberal member of Parliament and seatmate to, as you stand sweet all, at Michelle Simpson on Twitter, Linda Leatherdale, at L Leatherdale on Twitter, former money editor of the Toronto Sun and, where'd Michelle go?
Former money editor of the Toronto Sun and vice president of Cambridge, Canada, and Katherine Swift is the former CEO and president of the Canadian Federation of Independent Business, who was described as one of Canada's most powerful women, in fact the most powerful woman in Canada, and now working Canadians.ca. Well, Michelle abandoned us, I don't know what happened, but she's gone. Are you there? Linda?
I am here. I am here. Okay. We will reconvene.
We will get Michelle back. So we play to the voice of Doug Ford, being sworn in, or not being sworn in, but what he said afterwards, the new premier of the province of Ontario. What is your, this rule of reaction and what are your expectations, Linda? Well, obviously I'm thrilled.
I think he resonates. He says a lot. He's promised a lot on the election trail. I hope he will deliver, but I love what I am hearing, bringing Ontario back.
As we know, we've got a lot of exterior forces that can certainly impact Ontario that being, as you know, the trade war, and I'm sure we'll talk about that later, Roy, but that would definitely devastate Ontario. But we were the best province in the land. We are now the worst. We are up to our eyeballs in debt.
And I truly do believe that he will try, if he can, to turn this around. Cut taxes, help out small businesses, the engine of our economy. Yet, I don't know. The high-dole thing is going to be a tough one.
I'm going to tell you, but it has to be taken on. And getting rid of cap and trade. Yes, yes, yes. So I'm loving, when I'm hearing, and I'm loving his voice, Roy, I got to say that.
Okay, I just lost what you said. The last few words you said just disappeared on my head. I don't know what happened. Catherine, so we have a definite, I mean, a really significant swing, philosophically, in government in the province of Ontario.
And that speaks to how people were fed up with what they were getting from the left of the spectrum, because the Liberal Party, provincially, was clearly left of setter. Now, we have an election coming up in Quebec in October, and the favorites there are the CAC, the relatively new party that's headed by former Party Quebec minister. And Monsieur Quiara's Liberal Party is probably toast. And the PQ, well, they're not going to do anything.
We also have the upcoming election in Alberta, where it's widely expected, at least outside the province. Most of us would expect Jason Kennedy to be the next premier on Ontario. Are we seeing a real shift in this country? Is it because of what's going on, or is it just the right turn?
Well, I think of some of each, actually. We depend on those swing. If we look through our history, every government wears out their welcome, no matter what their political strikes. But I also think we have seen really a lot of big government spending a lot of promises made.
Yes, we're taxing you more, but you're going to be a winner. And I think your average person's going, yeah, I sure notice you taxing me more, but I don't feel like much of a winner. In fact, quite the contrary. So I would like to think, yes, some of it is certainly in Ontario.
They were long overdue for change in government. And now Alberta doesn't fit into that category, though. The NDP's only had one term. And granted, they also presented...
That's usually all it takes. Yeah, with NDP, I was like, right? But it also presided over a time when they had plummeting oil prices for a while. And so on, mind you, oil prices have recovered, and Alberta has not, by and large.
So the money funneled into the public sector is just outrageous in Alberta while the private sector was begging for very low wage jobs when these are people that used to make big bucks in the oil patch. I guess the swing that I'd like to see, I very much hope it will happen, is the swing more to recognize the people that are actually producing wealth, producing prosperity as opposed to those consuming it. We look at public sector unions, who by the way got a massive blow in the US Supreme Court in the last week, where no longer can do before us to be paid if people don't want to pay them. That was a really big deal.
But I think for the longest time we've seen governments bribe things like public sector unions and other groups to then reelect them at the next point. And I'd like to think that maybe the rest of us, and the rest of us are the large majority. I'd like to think that we are rising up, and the productive part of the economy, i.e. the private sector, the small businesses and so on, are going to be more recognized, appreciated.
And we'll get a few crumbs thrown their way as opposed to it just going to the more exploitative part of the economy, the public sector. Now, in the first hour, we spoke with Dan Kelly, who of course followed you, as the President and CEO of the CFIB, and Dan was talking about the tariff situation in between Canada and the United States. He feels that the Tudor government has done reasonably well as far as that is concerned. And then we also spoke with Jason Clemens, the executive vice president of the Fraser Institute, who coauthored a Peace College competitiveness should be a priority for finance ministers, when we talked about how Canada has become uncompetitive, because of taxation, because of regulation, because of deficits, and it's not an attractive constituency for money to be invested.
And 17 industrialized nations where they checked, Canada is second-classed as far as money being invested is concerned. And there's reason for that. Michelle Simpson is back with us. Michelle, let me ask you to just pick up on that, if you will.
And I'll come back to the earlier question. I don't know where you went, but I'm glad you're back. No, I got cut off. No.
The heck you say? Really? Yes. Well, there's going to be heck to pay for that.
What do you make of the argument that Canada has become uncompetitive because of the current administration and the raising, not only federally, but provincially, Mr. Clemens told us, I think it is seven provinces. I think it's seven provinces where income tax is over 50%. And the other three are very close to 50%.
What do you make of that? How much of a negative is that for Canada? What else is going on? And because of the tariff, no, I think it's huge.
I really do. Because we're becoming, we're trying to shrink. Globally, we're trying to shrink. We're trying to do, you think that's an intentional thing that's taking place?
Oh, yeah. The energy sector, which accounts for which has accounted in the past, enormous amount of our economy. Three trends, totally. And don't forget investment is future prosperity and the lack of investment is the lack of future.
And you know, as Mr. Clemens pointed out, as you run up deficits and as you run up debt, eventually that to the investor says they're going to raise taxes again because they're going to have to pay for that. Exactly. Yeah.
I'll continue to worry about that because of course they're going to have to do things they think are going to pay for the debt that we are. Let me get to the tariffs issue. Do we have time for that before we take the break? Yeah, I think we do.
So the tariffs fight that's ongoing now between Canada and the United States and the United States of Canada. Linda, what's your perspective of this? Well, to me, it is scary and I alluded to this. I mean, we want to get Ontario back on track and certainly these tariffs are going to be really hard.
If you look at it nationally, nationally, all over, I feel think it's terrible for Canada. As you said, we are so uncompetitive right now. And, you know, these tariffs are certainly going to hurt our aluminum steel, our auto industry and on and on. And so I just say cooler heads prevail here.
We depend on the United States, as you know, largest trading partner. We've got to get this past us. We've got to fight this. And I'm going to tell you, I've been invited to the July 4th celebration by the US ambassador.
I'm hearing Canadians who are not going to show up because they're so angry. I'm right there. Boy, talking about it. Yep.
Yep. And what could I do? Well, I get this trying to send a message and, you know, I believe that's not going to send a message. But quite honestly, I think of John Candy's movie, Canadian Bacon.
I never thought we would treat it this way. And, you know, I know cooler heads need to prevail. That's all I can say. Stephen Harper is going to Washington on Monday.
Please, somebody gets this thing resolved. Well, it's not his job, but we'll talk about Mr Harper in a second. a second cathryne if if you were advising the federal government of canada on how to proceed dealing with all trump and dealing with the federal government united states on this issue of tariffs keeping in mind that uh... the response you get the opening up for the first time would be we promised to make america great again on candidate i would you diplomatically make your cases in economist and back in the corner well first of all i think i think we can ever back the u.s into the corner because we don't have the numbers we just don't you know the trade situation i think that the handful of u.s.
states that have a roughly ten percent of their economy depend on trade with and i don't mean you let you don't leverage them of course you do you know you should leverage everybody in the u.s. that has a stake in trading with canada but when you have on terry of fifty percent of the economy fifty depends on trade with the u.s. kebec twenty five of birda about a third you know you take every single province in canada a huge chunk of their economy is dependent on the u.s. and the reverse is not true but when i tell you when i see true dough taking personal days and on the campaign trail right now you don't give the elections over just over a year away i find out appalling and i sure hope and it's hard to know this but there was a lot of talk in the press this week about how senior trade officials from the u.s.
said there was no talks going on now we talked about that as we can get another so let me take a break up on the talk about the uh... the the trans-mountain pipeline for four point five billion dollars on the line here now for this pipeline extension and it was uh... let's get it done let's go let's go let's go let's go and now ain't nothing going on what's the story will come back with cathon swiff lem gole and shellson's and on beauty and beast his mark is worse than his bike this is the right ratio so we see eighteen billion dollar deficit tax tax that are making it harder to do business in in this country uh... regulatory regimes pushing out foreign investment we believe that we can start position to play for jobs and investment here there's an issue is with us uh...
the beginning of today's program the conservative party leader of canada i appreciate it mister shear coming back from the program i've been a little hard on him fairly recently and uh... he accepted that yes i said earlier never uh... suggested that any of his caucus members should be speaking with me other political party leaders have done that in the past um... shall mama's with us as well cathron swift working canada ins dot c a linda levdale at uh...
linda levadele vice president can be a candidate for the member of parliament c-mate to the current prime minister was that squeaking somebody call that mouse uh... well i'm going to get a letter from peter steven harper visiting the white house on monday uh... miss sumpson you know i think it's a good idea the more handy having this thing and if his intention is to try to that you know because they've got one of them bros that all this care of dispute but party line so i have no objection to steven harper if he has some value added which i believe he does going to the state after there was the uh... one of the one of the subtext headline if there is such a thing as a subtext headline was steven harper stabbed just in true growing the back i'd give it a rest please well i don't think we're not sure what is on the agenda for harper in that he is now the chair of something called the international deputy union of them you know the new job i know that the things as well so you know exactly what capacity going there we're not a hundred percent meeting with balta not with trump you know nothing with some that we know i'd like i think they may be change in the internet but now i i i i i mean i can't lead trade issues wouldn't come up given his past job and i'm a person who can't but uh...
you know i have been frankly you know other prime ministers have have done things crutch and in it with the pewton years ago when harper was prime minister and i didn't see any headlines saying crutch and step further in the back so that this is drama you know this is drama by this and left leaning media that the two two days nothing wrong it might do harper did make a fairly helpful and responsible statement a couple of weeks ago on the trade issue where he was actually very much in sync with the Canadian government position and and and you know did send i think some sensible messages to to the uf and he is respected in many quarters so i mean he may well make a constructive contribution i don't think i mean i know steve archer reasonably well i i really can't see him doing anything to spike the country i can know i don't know more of canada in his heart and soul i think i think it's very small to have a view that steve harper would do something specifically the white house to harm this country i don't know what you said wrong i agree totally and i think right i mean he's had he's now the chair of the international democratic union that's why he's there and yeah and everybody said well true don't know he was going well this is on other business but i agree with me so if there's anything that he can do to help in this all please and uh... you know he's respected so that's right they send more money along with him to send all the people who have a significant background in the business of the room he was a highly respected labor lawyer at one time this is a partisan issue right that's right it isn't it can't afford to be anyway can people are trying to make it to one of them as usual that's a slow news day you got a right right line over there like they say harper deranged and i'm still alive and well even though he's all i should read just some of my email left of the left has a very interesting habit of totally billifying and dishonestly so in most cases uh... with my kid with a poor mike area you know he's still brought up and i was funny i do not know if i was a little bit well i read something on twitter the other day and i made sense of i got a lot of it said if if the left loses an election they want the people on the other side of the house people of one or on the right side of the spectrum to reach out and and and put their hand out so they can work together and if the left wins they just give the back and to the people that's right so we have about thirty seconds i want to show all very happy canada yeah or a hundred and fifty one years young i feel every minute of it but have a great weekend have a great happy candidate and we'll talk to you next Saturday okay happens with linda levin and buchanan on beauties and the putrops first pictures pickoffs when the game is on you call the shots head to betwee dot c a and bet your way must be nineteen plus on terry long play responsibly concerned about your gambling visit connexon terry dot c a