Been There, Done That: Pandemic Podcast - S4E18 Kimi

Listen to Kimi break down her insight on how the state of Arizona was able to go from being a traditional "Red State" to a "Blue State." It's a background story about what has transpired there over the last decade, and not just the last few months. We talk about the importance of "seeding" our organizing work and knowing that it will take a moment to flower and produce the nutrients we need. Finally, we talk about the need for organizing to center cultural work in or to both move people in to action AND help us sustain the work behind the scenes that is too often exhausting when metrics and numbers are the only thing focused on.