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EPISODE · Mar 25, 2026 · 1H 17M

Betrayed on the Eve of War: The Camp Pennsylvania Attack with Bart Womack

from The Secure Family Podcast · host Andy Murphy

CSM Bart Womack on Surviving Betrayal and Practicing Proactive Situational Awareness   Host Andy speaks with retired U.S. Army Command Sergeant Major Bart Womack about his book, "Embedded Enemy," recounting the March 2003 Camp Pennsylvania insider attack in Kuwait.   Womack describes the chaos of responding in darkness with limited ammo and visibility, coordinating security, casualty collection, evacuation and ultimately identifying and apprehending Sgt. Hasan Akbar.   He shares how the incident reshaped his concept of trust and outlines proactive situational awareness strategies—trust analysis, observe/listen/report, "listen don't just hear," know your neighbor/coworkers, gut checks, and recognizing signs—using examples from schools, social media threats, and everyday suspicious behavior.   For more from Command Sergeant Major Bart Womack visit: https://bartwomack.com/ Take control of your data with DeleteMe. Because they sponsor the podcast you can get 20% off a privacy plan from DeleteMe with promo code: DAD.  Connect 📧 Subscribe to The Secure Dad emails 📸 Follow The Secure Dad on Instagram 📺 Subscribe to The Secure Dad on YouTube 🖥️ Visit The Secure Dad Website 00:00 Welcome 02:04 Meet CSM Bart Womack  03:24 Kuwait Night Begins 05:30 Explosions in the Tent 08:39 No Ammo Response 11:57 Chaos and Casualties 18:32 Suspect Identified 20:38 Akbar Captured 26:20 Aftermath and Losses 29:53 Lessons Under Fire 37:28 Trust Shattered 44:12 Diary Reveals Motive 46:22 Trust No One 50:14 Proactive Awareness Basics 51:25 School Shooter Reality Check 53:49 Observe Listen Report 57:57 Know Your Neighbor 01:02:55 Listen Dont Just Hear 01:10:35 Gut Check And Signs 01:16:07 Closing Thoughts   The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. The views and opinions expressed by guests are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of The Secure Dad, LLC.   The Secure Dad LLC makes every effort to provide accurate, up-to-date information, but no guarantee is made regarding the completeness, reliability, or accuracy of the content in this podcast or any related materials. Information may change over time, and inadvertent errors or omissions may occur. The Secure Dad LLC is not liable for any losses, injuries, or damages arising from the use of, or reliance on, any information provided.   The Secure Dad® is a registered trademark of The Secure Dad, LLC. This post contains affiliate links. If you use these links to buy something, a commission may be earned. All rights reserved.

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