"Better an Apikores Than an Am Haaretz": Rav Meni Even-Israel on Rav Steinsaltz's Vision (292)

Check out Orthodox Conundrum Commentary on Substack and get your free subscription by going to https://scottkahn.substack.com/ - and paid subscribers get this and other episodes of the Orthodox Conundrum Podcast ad-free and with early access and additional bonus content! Most people know Rav Adin Steinsaltz as the scholar who transformed access to the Talmud. But beneath the translations, commentaries, and publishing projects was a much larger, richer, and more complicated vision of Judaism itself. In this episode, I speak with Rav Meni Even-Israel, Rav Steinsaltz's son and the director of the Steinsaltz Center, about the worldview that animated his father's life and work. Rav Steinsaltz believed Torah should produce intellectually serious, spiritually alive, deeply curious human beings who were unafraid of complexity, unafraid of difficult questions, and unafraid of the broader world. He resisted a Judaism that was narrow, insulated, or intellectually fragile. At the same time, he was deeply committed to tradition, profoundly shaped by Chassidut, and fiercely loyal to the Lubavitcher Rebbe. That creates a fascinating tension running through this conversation. How did someone so intellectually independent accept the authority of a rebbe? How did he reconcile Rambam-style rationalism with deep immersion in mysticism? Why did he believe broad knowledge and curiosity were religious necessities rather than spiritual threats? And what happens to a Torah revolution when the revolutionary himself is gone? One especially revealing part of our discussion centers on Rav Meni's own battle with cancer as a teenager, and the way Rav Steinsaltz navigated medical expertise alongside the guidance of the Rebbe. The story captures something essential about him: he was neither blindly submissive nor dismissively skeptical; instead, he attempted to hold together scientific judgment, spiritual intuition, and religious trust without compromising or undermining any one of them. We also discuss Rav Steinsaltz's belief that Judaism should never become boxed in or one-dimensional, but should instead cultivate curiosity, intellectual depth, spirituality, and genuine personal ownership of Torah. Please listen to and share this podcast, and let us know what you think on the Orthodox Conundrum Discussion Group on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/432020081498108). If your business is interested in advertising to our engaged Orthodox audience, or if you'd like to sponsor an episode in honor of a loved one or simcha, please reach out to [email protected] to support meaningful Jewish conversations. Thanks to all of our Patreon subscribers, who have access to bonus JCH podcasts, merch, and more - we appreciate your help, and hope you really enjoy the extras! Visit the JCH Patreon site at https://www.patreon.com/jewishcoffeehouse. Write to [email protected] to learn all about creating your own podcast. Music: "Happy Rock" by bensound.com