Between the Rock and the Devil

A haunted museum, a vanished follow-up, and a ghost story tied to one of New England’s most tragic shipwrecks. Sheena and Sarah unpack the season two finale of The Holzer Files and the case that still refuses to sit quietly.At the center is Hans Holzer, the prolific paranormal investigator whose methods helped shape modern ghost-hunting long before TV made it a genre. Sheena explores his background, his interest in historical records, and the controversial casework that made him famous—and damaged his credibility. Sarah brings a skeptic’s perspective, questioning the theatrical feel of paranormal TV and why some ghost shows don’t quite feel real.The conversation dives into “Devil in the Rock,” the Bates Ship Chandlery in Cohasset, Massachusetts, and the claim that the haunting intensified after Holzer’s 1964 visit. Sheena also explores Holzer’s legacy, the controversy surrounding his connection to Amityville, and the tragic wreck of the Brig Saint John—history that gives this haunting a weight beyond a simple jump scare.If you love paranormal history, skeptical takes, old-school ghost hunting, and the strange intersection of folklore, tragedy, and television, this one is for you. It’s spooky, smart, and full of details that may leave you wanting to look up the building yourself.