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EPISODE · Jan 3, 2026 · 39 MIN

Between Two Chains Ep 2: How is Interoperability Solved? w/Jill Gunter (Espresso)

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Last week we spoke with Aditi and Nitya from Para about interoperability from the user's lens, and this week, in our second episode of Between Two Chains, we speak with Jill Gunter from Espresso about interoperability from the other lens: builders. Jill dives deep into the intricate dynamics of composability and interoperability, how infra builders need to emphasize user experience to move forward, and the state of Ethereum, the ecosystem's incentives, and the importance of staying user-centric while building decentralized applications. Between Two Chains is a four-part miniseries produced by Rehashed and co-hosted by LayerZero, where we explore whether blockchain interoperability is solved. ⏳ TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Intro 08:30 The importance of composability 18:19 Composability in infra 21:17 The developer vs user communication gap 32:51 The importance of interoperability 37:13 Follow Jill DISCLAIMER: The information in this video is the opinion of the speaker(s) only and is for informational purposes only. You should not construe it as investment advice, tax advice, or legal advice, and it does not represent any entity's opinion but those of the speaker(s). For investment or legal advice, please seek a duly licensed professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Last week we spoke with Aditi and Nitya from Para about interoperability from the user's lens, and this week, in our second episode of Between Two Chains, we speak with Jill Gunter from Espresso about interoperability from the other lens: builders. Jill dives deep into the intricate dynamics of composability and interoperability, how infra builders need to emphasize user experience to move forward, and the state of Ethereum, the ecosystem's incentives, and the importance of staying user-centric while building decentralized applications. Between Two Chains is a four-part miniseries produced by Rehashed and co-hosted by LayerZero, where we explore whether blockchain interoperability is solved. ⏳ TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Intro 08:30 The importance of composability 18:19 Composability in infra 21:17 The developer vs user communication gap 32:51 The importance of interoperability 37:13 Follow Jill DISCLAIMER: The information in this video is the opinion of the speaker(s) only and is for informational purposes only. You should not construe it as investment advice, tax advice, or legal advice, and it does not represent any entity's opinion but those of the speaker(s). For investment or legal advice, please seek a duly licensed professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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