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EPISODE · Jul 13, 2026 · 30 MIN

Between Two Nerds: Exploits are not cyber power

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In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq discuss just how important exploits are for cyber operations using data published in a new paper authored by two members of Ukraine’s cyber security agency. This episode is also available on YouTube. Show notes Exploits were never the point Rethinking Exploitation in Cyber War: Reassessing the Role of Software Exploits in Wartime Max Smeets' chapter 5 from "No Shortcuts": The Elements of an Offensive Cyber Capability

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