Between Two Shovels EP 17: John Hovde & Josh Nichols (GoodFellow Brothers) - How We Saved Millions episode artwork

EPISODE · Feb 25, 2026 · 39 MIN

Between Two Shovels EP 17: John Hovde & Josh Nichols (GoodFellow Brothers) - How We Saved Millions

from Between Two Shovels with Derek Minnema · host Derek Minnema

GoodFellow Brothers built the Capital SouthEast Connector's White Rock Road expressway, the first modern four-lane expressway in the Sacramento region. In this episode, Vice President John Hovde and Project Manager Josh Nichols break down exactly how they did it, from winning the bid during COVID lockdowns to finishing with a bike path that was never in the original contract.Chapters:00:00 Introduction and GoodFellow Brothers Overview02:16 How Contractors Win Public Infrastructure Work05:19 Bidding and Building During COVID09:18 Coordinating Construction Alongside a Growing Community12:02 Eliminating 200,000 Yards of Import: The Cost Reduction Incentive15:02 How Cost Savings Built the Bike Path17:04 Blasting Rock Next to Occupied Homes22:18 Paving an Expressway: 55,000 Tons and 28 Trucks a Day28:38 Why Traffic Poles Take 6 Months to Deliver31:24 Long Lead Items Every Contractor Should Plan For32:12 Lessons Learned for the Next Phase of the Connector35:30 Final Thoughts from the FieldSubscribe for more conversations about infrastructure, construction and what it actually takes to build the roads communities depend on.Between Two Shovels is produced by the Capital SouthEast Connector Joint Powers Authority and explores transportation policy, engineering, and project delivery through conversations with industry leaders.Guest: John Hovde and Josh Nichols, GoodFellow BrothersTitle: Between Two Shovels EP 17: John Hovde & Josh Nichols (GoodFellow Brothers) - How We Saved Millions

GoodFellow Brothers built the Capital SouthEast Connector's White Rock Road expressway, the first modern four-lane expressway in the Sacramento region. In this episode, Vice President John Hovde and Project Manager Josh Nichols break down exactly how they did it, from winning the bid during COVID lockdowns to finishing with a bike path that was never in the original contract.Chapters:00:00 Introduction and GoodFellow Brothers Overview02:16 How Contractors Win Public Infrastructure Work05:19 Bidding and Building During COVID09:18 Coordinating Construction Alongside a Growing Community12:02 Eliminating 200,000 Yards of Import: The Cost Reduction Incentive15:02 How Cost Savings Built the Bike Path17:04 Blasting Rock Next to Occupied Homes22:18 Paving an Expressway: 55,000 Tons and 28 Trucks a Day28:38 Why Traffic Poles Take 6 Months to Deliver31:24 Long Lead Items Every Contractor Should Plan For32:12 Lessons Learned for the Next Phase of the Connector35:30 Final Thoughts from the FieldSubscribe for more conversations about infrastructure, construction and what it actually takes to build the roads communities depend on.Between Two Shovels is produced by the Capital SouthEast Connector Joint Powers Authority and explores transportation policy, engineering, and project delivery through conversations with industry leaders.Guest: John Hovde and Josh Nichols, GoodFellow BrothersTitle: Between Two Shovels EP 17: John Hovde & Josh Nichols (GoodFellow Brothers) - How We Saved Millions

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GoodFellow Brothers built the Capital SouthEast Connector's White Rock Road expressway, the first modern four-lane expressway in the Sacramento region. In this episode, Vice President John Hovde and Project Manager Josh Nichols break down exactly...

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