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EPISODE · Aug 26, 2025 · 38 MIN

Between Two Shovels Ep.7: Tim Murphy (CEO at NSBIA) - California’s Housing Crisis: Costs & Reforms

from Between Two Shovels with Derek Minnema · host Derek Minnema

Why is housing affordability slipping further out of reach, and what can be done about it?In this episode of Between Two Shovels, Tim Murphy, President & CEO of the North State Building Industry Association, unpacks the complex mix of costs, regulations, and policies shaping California’s housing crisis. From six-figure fees to legislative reforms, this conversation offers an inside look at why home prices keep climbing and what solutions are on the table.What you’ll learn in this episode: • Why new housing faces $80K-$140K in fees before construction begins • How every $1,000 price increase prices 150,000 families out of a home • The role of CEQA reform and why it’s not a complete fix • How VMT (Vehicle Miles Traveled) costs could add $20K-$25K per home • Why suburban and rural housing demand is often overlooked • Creative solutions builders are using to keep homeownership attainableTimestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and Tim Murphy’s background 00:01:31 - The Connector Project and regional infrastructure needs 00:04:40 - The real cost of housing fees: $80K–$140K per unit 00:06:07 - How the housing shortage impacts families 00:06:53 - Affordable housing vs. attainable housing 00:08:33 - What $1,400/month gets you in today’s market 00:11:28 - California’s affordability crisis spreading to other states 00:12:41 - CEQA reform and its limitations 00:17:00 - Understanding VMT costs and their impact on housing 00:21:22 - Local advocacy and managing development fees 00:23:23 - How small cost increases push families out of the market 00:25:13 - Creative solutions for attainable housing 00:26:56 - How HomeAid Sacramento supports transitional housing 00:29:16 - 88% job placement through construction training programs 00:30:27 - Creative financing and interest rate programs for buyersWatch now and join the conversation.What do you think is the single biggest barrier to housing affordability where you live?

Why is housing affordability slipping further out of reach, and what can be done about it?In this episode of Between Two Shovels, Tim Murphy, President & CEO of the North State Building Industry Association, unpacks the complex mix of costs, regulations, and policies shaping California’s housing crisis. From six-figure fees to legislative reforms, this conversation offers an inside look at why home prices keep climbing and what solutions are on the table.What you’ll learn in this episode: • Why new housing faces $80K-$140K in fees before construction begins • How every $1,000 price increase prices 150,000 families out of a home • The role of CEQA reform and why it’s not a complete fix • How VMT (Vehicle Miles Traveled) costs could add $20K-$25K per home • Why suburban and rural housing demand is often overlooked • Creative solutions builders are using to keep homeownership attainableTimestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and Tim Murphy’s background 00:01:31 - The Connector Project and regional infrastructure needs 00:04:40 - The real cost of housing fees: $80K–$140K per unit 00:06:07 - How the housing shortage impacts families 00:06:53 - Affordable housing vs. attainable housing 00:08:33 - What $1,400/month gets you in today’s market 00:11:28 - California’s affordability crisis spreading to other states 00:12:41 - CEQA reform and its limitations 00:17:00 - Understanding VMT costs and their impact on housing 00:21:22 - Local advocacy and managing development fees 00:23:23 - How small cost increases push families out of the market 00:25:13 - Creative solutions for attainable housing 00:26:56 - How HomeAid Sacramento supports transitional housing 00:29:16 - 88% job placement through construction training programs 00:30:27 - Creative financing and interest rate programs for buyersWatch now and join the conversation.What do you think is the single biggest barrier to housing affordability where you live?

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