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EPISODE · Aug 20, 2026 · 26 MIN

Beyond the Grants

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Native CDFIs know their communities. Banks have capital. But bringing the two together takes more than a grant.In this episode of Difference Makers 3.0, host Brian Edwards and co-host Pete Upton talk with Wells Fargo Senior Vice President Tim Rios about how banks and Native CDFIs can build stronger, long-term financial partnerships.The conversation explores relationship banking, patient capital, risk and familiarity, and what banks need to understand before investing in Native CDFIs. Rios and Upton also discuss Wells Fargo’s support for efforts to develop and strengthen Native CDFIs in California and Nevada — and why successful partnerships require banks and Native CDFIs to understand each other’s goals and build trust over time. Resources and LinksNative CDFI NetworkWells Fargo — Indigenous Peoples StatementNCN RISE — Emerging Native CDFI DevelopmentOweesta Corporation — Native CDFI Capital Access ConveningWells Fargo — CDFI Lending and InvestmentDifference Makers explores how Native community development financial institutions (CDFIs) are expanding economic opportunity across Indian Country. From small business lending and homeownership to consumer loans, financial education, and technical assistance, Native CDFIs provide the capital and support that help Native communities build stronger local economies.Join the Native CDFI Network and Tribal Business News as they spotlight the people, partnerships, and ideas driving economic change in Native communities.

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Native CDFIs know their communities. Banks have capital. But bringing the two together takes more than a grant. In this episode of Difference Makers 3.0, host Brian Edwards and co-host Pete Upton talk with Wells Fargo Senior Vice President Tim Rios about how banks and Native CDFIs can build stronger, long-term financial partnerships. The conversation explores relationship banking, patient capital, risk and familiarity, and what banks need to understand before investing in Native CDFIs. Rios a...

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