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Beyond the Shiny Objects: Max Klein and Mike Wilson on Wealth Tech’s Invisible Layer

from AI for Advisors · host Mark Heynen, James Cantwell

In this episode of AI for Advisors, Mark Heynen and James Cantwell welcome two founders building critical AI infrastructure for wealth management: Max Klein, co-founder and CEO of LEA, and Mike Wilson, CEO of Hamachi.ai. Fresh from the Advise AI conference in Vegas, the group digs into the backend systems that power front-office tools—from client data orchestration to compliant email drafting. They debate whether CRMs are dying, discuss adoption strategies for B2B AI startups, and explore Orion’s Denali AI announcement. The conversation touches on everything from switching costs and user friction to why email might outlive its reputation as a “dying technology.”Key Takeaways: Backend infrastructure beats shiny objects—unsexy problems like data extraction and compliant communications enable everything else.Hamachi redacts all PII before LLMs process emails—compliant drafting without exposing client data to AI models.Traditional CRMs are artifacts of the ’90s—AI can surface “Scruffy was sick” without custom database fields.Orion’s Denali is the first enterprise AI overlay—querying portfolio and CRM data in natural language, not just CRM intelligence.Zero-friction tools win adoption—note-takers succeeded because they require no clicks; platform switching costs remain prohibitive.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​Learn more about Max Klein | LEAWebsite: https://www.getlea.io LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxdklein Learn more about Mike Wilson | Hamachi.aiWebsite: https://hamachi.ai LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-wilson-inc Learn more about Mark Heynen | James Cantwell | AI for Advisors PodcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markheynen Website: https://www.knapsack.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescantwell Website: https://www.wealthtechselect.com YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@AIforAdvisorsPodcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z1NMErEJ5lxMe0aaO5w8W

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