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Big P vs. Little P Purpose: Why You Don't Need to Find Your One True Calling

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Art of Manliness: Read the notes at at podcastnotes.org. Don't forget to subscribe for free to our newsletter, the top 10 ideas of the week, every Monday --------- People are told their whole lives how important it is to find their purpose. But many find the search frustrating. They feel there's one true calling or one grand goal they're supposed to be pursuing, but they can't seem to discern what it is.My guest, Jordan Grumet, author of The Purpose Code, says that searching for what he calls your big P purpose can be fruitless and even harmful, and that a better path is to embrace a life of little p purposes. Today on the show, Jordan explains the difference between big P and little p purposes and argues that the former can lead to anxiety while embracing the latter can be the path to meaning, satisfaction, connection, and even the legacy you were looking for in the first place. We discuss how Jordan found his way to this philosophy after burning out as a doctor, practical ways to discover your own little p purposes, what he thinks we get wrong in making family our purpose, and what his work in hospice has taught him about living a life without regret.Connect With Jordan GrumetJordan's websiteJordan's Substack: The Purpose Code 00:00 Intro & Show Overview0:41 Meet Jordan Grumet1:46 From Doctor to Purpose Writer5:00 Big P vs Little P Purpose8:32 Why Purpose Talk Makes People Anxious11:15 What the Research Says13:42 Burnout and Big P Purpose16:18 The Podcasting Example: Process vs Goals19:42 Legacy Through Little P Purpose28:24 Finding Your Purpose Anchors38:01 The Climb: Building Your Purpose43:14 Family, Regrets, and Final ThoughtsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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