Bill Gates, Jeffrey Epstein & the "I Didn't Know" Defense | Legal Analyst Shari Karney on Bill Cunningham Sunday Live episode artwork

EPISODE · Jun 30, 2026 · 17 MIN

Bill Gates, Jeffrey Epstein & the "I Didn't Know" Defense | Legal Analyst Shari Karney on Bill Cunningham Sunday Live

from Roar with Shari. . . All Things Justice for Women & Survivors · host Shari Karney

People in Epstein's Orbit Using the "I Didn't Know" StrategyAttorney, survivor advocate, and legal analyst Shari Karney joins Bill Cunningham Sunday Live (heard by more than 1.3 million listeners) to examine the testimony of people connected to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, including Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, before the House Oversight Committee.Karney analyzes what she calls the recurring "I didn't know" defense—a strategy repeatedly used by powerful individuals who claim they were unaware of Epstein's sex trafficking operation despite their relationships with him.Following his testimony before Congress, Bill Gates described his meetings with Epstein as a "grave error in judgment" while denying any knowledge of Epstein's criminal conduct.As Karney explains:"A grave error of misjudgment is lending money to your deadbeat roommate—not child sexual abuse, not sex trafficking, and not the heinous crimes that have been described here. One of the things that is just frankly not believable is that 'I didn't see anything. I didn't know.'"Karney further argues that the "I didn't know" strategy has repeatedly been accepted during congressional testimony:"These billionaire 'Epstein-class' men come in and testify: 'I didn't know. I didn't see anything. I made a mistake.' And the committee says, 'OK, that's fine.' There's no indictments, no investigations, and no arrests."The conversation also examines statements made by former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton regarding their interactions with Epstein, broader questions of accountability, the legal implications of congressional testimony, and why survivors continue to seek justice.Topics CoveredJeffrey EpsteinBill Gates testimonyHouse Oversight CommitteeThe "I Didn't Know" defenseSex trafficking accountabilityChild sexual abuseVictims' rightsCongressional investigationsGhislaine MaxwellLegal analysis by attorney Shari KarneyBill Cunningham Sunday LiveTo listen to the full Bill Cunningham IHeart Radio Show  700 WLW:  https://www.iheart.com/podcast/71-bill-cunningham-20785499/episode/6-26-26-bill-cunningham-show-337621284 

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