Birmingham Mayor Randall Woodfin on Police Reform, Getting Re-elected, and Pragmatic Leadership

Bakari is joined by the recently re-elected mayor of Birmingham, Alabama, Randall Woodfin, to talk about his thoughts on the police reform vs. abolish debate (3:08), the challenges that come along with being a mayor of a large city and working to get re-elected (11:50), and why he believes in pragmatic leadership (21:23). Host: Bakari Sellers Guest: Randall Woodfin Executive Producer: Jarrod Loadholt Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices