BITCOIN ADOPTION, SELF-CUSTODY, ECASH & FIGHTING STATE CONTROL | Evan Kaloudis of Zeus episode artwork

EPISODE · Jun 24, 2025 · 1H 40M

BITCOIN ADOPTION, SELF-CUSTODY, ECASH & FIGHTING STATE CONTROL | Evan Kaloudis of Zeus

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"I think if Bitcoin stays where it's at with the small community it has and it's just used as it is now–store value, ETFs, shiny rock under the bed, gold 2.0–I'll consider it a colossal failure. So we need to build out these circular economies and make sure Bitcoin gets used for commerce everywhere." In this episode of the Bitcoin Podcast, Walker America talks with Evan Kaloudis, founder of Zeus, to discuss Bitcoin adoption, improving UX, orange pilling struggles, merchant adoption, self-custody, the Lightning Network, eCash (Cashu), CBDCs, resisting state overreach, and the future of Bitcoin development. They also discuss how Evan kept developing Zeus in the USA, even when other companies were leaving the country and cutting off access for Americans. FOLLOW EVAN: X: https://x.com/evankaloudis Nostr: https://primal.net/evan Zeus: https://zeusln.com/ THE Bitcoin Podcast Partners: > GET FOLD: https://use.foldapp.com/r/WALKER > SIGN UP FOR THE FOLD BITCOIN REWARDS CREDIT CARD: https://foldapp.com/credit-card?r=UZoiP > http://bitbox.swiss/walker -- use promo code WALKER for 5% off the Bitcoin-only Bitbox02 hardware wallet. ***** If you enjoy THE Bitcoin Podcast you can help support the show by doing the following: FOLLOW ME (Walker) on @WalkerAmerica on X | @TitcoinPodcast on X | Nostr Personal (walker) | Nostr Podcast (Titcoin) | Instagram Subscribe to THE Bitcoin Podcast (and leave a review) on Fountain | YouTube | Spotify | Rumble | EVERYWHERE ELSE

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