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EPISODE · Sep 11, 2026 · 1H 6M

Bitcoin, AI and the Way Out of the Permanent Underclass | Fernando Nikolić #230

from The Bitcoin Collective · host Jordan Walker

Fernando left his job as VP of Marketing at Blockstream to build a product on his own. Seven months later, still in beta, it was profitable. He has no employees, no investors and no board. Just a fleet of agents and a very clear view of where all this is heading.He joins Jordan Walker to talk about what building actually looks like now, why the hardest part is no longer the code, and what happens to everyone who isn't a builder.In this episode with Fernando:Why the coding is now the easy part, and selling is still the hard partLeaving Blockstream to go solo, and what he doesn't miss about managing a teamThe moment in a demo call that tells you the truthRunning a business on a fleet of agents instead of employeesWhy so much company content has started to sound identicalWhat happens to jobs when firms stop hiring altogetherHolding something scarce when the money supply isn'tChapters:00:00 Coming up01:50 Seeing an early Perception demo04:00 When AI was a glorified Stack Overflow06:00 Does this feel like the early internet?10:00 The trap of feeling productive12:00 Coding is commoditised, selling isn't16:00 Leaving Blockstream to build Perception18:30 Nobody wanted the dashboard21:00 The pivot to agents and MCP25:30 The money moment is the honest moment28:30 Can you lean on AI too much?36:30 What agents actually save you45:30 The real problem with AI slop49:20 Profitable in beta, bootstrapped, solo58:00 Jobs, ten years out01:03:20 Hold something scarce🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://www.joinbbn.com/FIND FERNANDO:X - https://x.com/basedlayer?lang=enBitcoin Perception - https://bitcoinperception.comCONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: [email protected]📬READ OUR NEWSLETTER: https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCEwww.selectedfrequencies.comAvailable now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms. This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Always do your own research.Nobody Wanted His Dashboard, So He Binned It He Left Blockstream to Build Alone Why Coding Is Now the Easy Part

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