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BITCOIN SEASON 2: Why tokens don't work (except for Bitcoin)

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Gwart discusses the death of the fat protocol thesis, why DAOs became dysfunctional, and crypto's shift from public goods delusion to revenue-focused businesses. Plus thoughts on Bitcoin maximalism and Solana's pragmatic approach. You're listening to Bitcoin Season 2. Subscribe to the newsletter, trusted by over 7,000 Bitcoiners: https://newsletter.blockspacemedia.com Gwart joins us to talk about the collapse of crypto's "public goods" era and why the revenue meta is taking over. We dive deep into the fat protocol thesis, why DAOs failed, the difference between Bitcoin and crypto, and how builders are finally focusing on sustainable businesses instead of token hacking. Subscribe to the newsletter! https://newsletter.blockspacemedia.com **NOTES:** • Pump.fun crossed hundreds of millions in revenue • Fat protocol thesis originated 2016-2017 • iPhone example: $1,000 vs theoretical $10,000 • Uniswap has fee switch but hasn't turned it on • Thread guy has 5% Bitcoin portfolio allocation • Bitcoin could 10x in next five years Timestamps: 00:00 Start 01:59 Bitcoin vs Crypto 06:08 What does Gwart "believe" in? 08:33 Revenue Meta & Fat Protocol Thesis 13:36 Interpreting the Fat Protocol Thesis 19:25 Analogies to Linux, etc 27:18 Is the DAO dead? 31:27 Devs 37:35 Creators of the Revenue delusion 40:46 Are stonks the new tokens? 45:01 Solana maxi 50:22 Real World Assets ;P 53:10 Minting new BTC maxis - 👋Bitcoin Season 2 is produced Blockspace Media, Bitcoin’s first B2B publication in Bitcoin. Follow us on Twitter and check out our newsletter for the best information in Bitcoin mining, Ordinals and tech! Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? [email protected] See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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