EPISODE · Apr 24, 2026 · 1H
Black and Ginger: Lean Into Your Weird
from The Conversation Room · host Hugh Baird College
In this episode of The Conversation Room, we sit down with Alex Frech, Creative Director and owner of creative agency Black and Ginger, to talk about everything from breaking into the industry to the personality, commercial awareness and resilience you actually need to succeed.Alex shares his journey from early jobs and time spent working beyond Liverpool to building one of the city's most established creative agencies, navigating the recession years and reshaping his entire business model to come out stronger.He opens up about the misconceptions people have about working in a creative agency, why every design studio is a commercial business first and what nobody tells you about the gap between doing great creative work and running a sustainable company.If you're a design student, a creative apprentice or thinking about a career in branding, advertising or agency life, this one is packed with honest advice you won't get in the classroom.Alex answers real questions on everything from landing work experience at an agency to what makes a portfolio stand out, why personality fit matters more than confidence and what "leaning into your weird" actually means for your career.We also cover the Liverpool creative scene, Black and Ginger's expansion plans and why Alex believes the city's talent pool is one of its biggest untapped assets.🔔 Subscribe for more episodes of The Conversation Room👍 Like this video if you found it helpful💬 Drop a comment and tell us: what's the one thing you wish someone had told you when you started training?📲 Follow Black and Ginger: Instagram: @blackandginger Website: https://www.blackandginger.com
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