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Thanks for listening to the podcast. If you want to be part of the conversation, join us live every Tuesday at 9 p.m. on YouTube.com slash debt in sports. That's YouTube.com slash debt in sports.

This is the place where sports is being scolod. I am your host, going to be in joining me, man. We got the usual cohort. We got a shot in Jay was handed man was handed and cute as this man.

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Appreciate it for putting all this together. And tonight we are going to try to take your calls. It's something that I've been talking about for well over a year now. It's something that you guys have wanted us to bring back.

And this is one way that he reached out that he found the solution that may work. So we decided to go ahead and give it a go tonight to test it out. And if you are a member, we're giving you first deals on us working this thing through. So we will be taking those calls at around 30 minutes into the show.

If you are not a member, go to YouTube.com slash then in sports and just hit the join button. You'll see a whole bunch of icons at the bottom. You want to be with them and hit the button and then hit the community tab and the link will be posted there. You'll drop into a queue on the back end and then you'll be dragged up to the screen to to ask a question or leave a comment.

So we take this back to the blog talk radio days, but you don't have to ask anything. You just tell us how you feel about whatever is on your mind. So yeah, man, I'm excited to do this and shout out to Shelton and Q for jumping on last minute to help work this thing out. So yeah, so the show is going to be just right around 45 minutes to an hour.

So so but we wanted to talk about KD and we have the Tuesday show and we haven't really talked basketball that much, especially last week show. It was more of a blip. It was a lot of football, football heavy. But there has been a new developments in the KD case.

And he is now staying with the brother, Nett. Um, so I'll just toss it to I'm open with you. You've been on the show in a minute. Um, what are your thoughts on just where we are right now with this old KD net situation?

I think for right now, we're at a spot where everyone's playing nice because they didn't I received the offers that I think was indicative of a serious market. You know, I mean, the nets receiving genuinely enticing offers for Kevin Durant. I don't think it happened. I think they got a couple cool deals.

I thought they got some pretty solid ones, maybe even a couple good ones. But at the end of the day, the market was not as serious as it was for a really go bear, which I think for lack of better word, brewing the momentum that would have come about if Katie asked, asked the guy what he wanted. This is this is just pretty much one of those moments where they're waiting for all the shoes to fall. I think by the deadline, we'll know if this is a really serious R.

Katie's really staying in this entire thing. It's going to be repaired. But I think that everything is just playing nice in public because Kyrie, in my opinion, is still not safe to finish the season as a net. He might not even play a game this season for the net.

Who knows? KD, you don't know what's going to happen with him, his health or whatever. I think that these things definitely even Steve Nash and his and his coaching, all of these different factors of just the unpredictable net. And Simmons does he want to come to play?

Does that spark something of, you know, maybe that's some of Katie's issues? Who knows? No one really knows what Kevin Durant is thinking besides him. All I know is that they're playing nice right now.

I don't expect to stay that way though. I don't expect to show. I 100% agree with you, Q. I felt like it's like when that girl thinks you don't came up to my the total speed of good, and she's going out there trying to get something new in that new situation and realize it ain't much out there and it's to come back.

That's kind of what it feels like to me. And this thing is a myth. Like it feels like it's messy. I don't think it's done.

We're going to see some more incidents out of the team. I saw somebody saying they're coming for revenge. I'm like, man, we're going to get 30 more incidents between now and the start of the season these three. I don't see it.

I don't see where it can work out in any way. It just doesn't feel good to me. I mean, it's, it's, it's, I mean, it was like the topic of the whole summer, right? Or the whole basketball offseason, at least when you requested the trade.

You know, I think that was the kind of situation and then it was a good situation. And, you know, he demanded or asked that the GM and the coach would be fired. And we even commented on on Dennis Wors. And I think you that showed it to us in our chat that the players, maybe it was you show us about the players are responding to how to match.

And he comes out and says what he says to kind of further solidify what we're seeing. So now that this is over and he's saying that all the reports are he just get it to rattling age, like, how do you even come back from that? If you're like outside of just being a professional and doing your job, how do you come back from a situation where your star guy did not want you there? Right.

You know, that's, that's, that's, that's the thing. So I don't know. I think that we'll see what that happens. Yeah, I think we saw that that he that.

And what's the point to say? Oh, the the the the really good bear trade kind of really messed everything up. And I know Kyle was saying this in the chat as well, but, you know, I'd really think about it that way and how that completely lopsided trade is really destroyed any chance for anybody getting anything for Katie. Yeah.

Did you see Ken where Patrick Beverly kind of he said that whole situation messed up the market for other players, you know, he's like, you know, we got families out here on hold because of that whole Katie situation. He tweeted that. Yeah. Yeah, I did.

Yeah. Yeah. And the title of the show came from that came from Katie tweeting hashtag blame Katie. But I don't know.

Do you think there was validity to the way he was saying like with some of the guys as well? I see both sides of him. You know, you know, I see both sides where I get Katie being like, work harder, like be better at the game. This is all basically independent contracting services out to a team.

So, you know, I mean, like be better at what you contract and then, you know, I mean, you won't have to be holding up because you'll be a guy on your own name. Said just role player, just a guy who brings a great energy. You know, I mean, you're Patrick Beverly. I'm Katie.

That's what Katie was saying. He's like, bro, you're not as good as me. So y'all can't do what I do. Yeah, man.

I do what I did. And then I understand Patrick because if I'm coming from that perspective to of being like the guy with the grind for every from like playing in China to now being a pretty know, saying what perspective player in the league, at least amongst the majority. So I look at it from his perspective, like, damn, bro, like, you had us all locked up the entire summer, like we all got money, but I still ultimately aside with Katie's perspective because it's like, but that's not my fault. No, you got to go way harder than that.

Yeah. And that's obviously I'm like, that's not a Katie to be worried about, you know, saying his thing is secure in his situation. I'll be ridiculous. And part of me, I don't see why he would have wanted to leave anyway.

Well, I do because I don't like the answer. It's not about do, but it's not his problem. Put it that way. Well, I mean, there was some validity to it because ironically after he said that he got traded, you know, now he's a laker of all places for a THT and.

Stan Johnson Stanley. Yeah. So Stanley would probably end up getting cut. It'll be interesting to see what happened with THT outside of LA.

Is he going to be like another what's the guy watching that everybody liked and then like, like, can do. Coosmo, Coosmo. Yeah. Yeah.

Is he going to be a Coosmo or is that are the talents that he showcase the year before he actually had to swim over spot the Billy's with that manifest and stuff? I don't know. We'll see. But nevertheless, you know, as soon as that whole thing was resolved, Pat Bell got moved.

I don't know. I mean, I know how this helps the Lakers, but it still was a relatively odd move for me. For me. The Lakers have everything and we they have virtually in life a zero shooting at the wing right now.

Like they have LeBron, LeBron, Spike only handled a ball more. They have Troy Brown Jr. and they got lying Walker for so that's cool. But in the day, I'm not seeing enough that gives me cost of powers when I'm a team that has to toe either double team LeBron or AD at any given home.

I feel more comfortable in that position right now because we're going to pick it out to Patrick Beverly. He's probably not going to kill me from three. He might get hot one night or two, but he can't do it for a whole series. And that's why I think the Lakers are just making a lot of weird moves, a lot of lateral moves.

I think they're actually going to miss Stanley Johnson just on some hustle, just on some youthful and like you want to get youthful, you're going to pass your record. You know what I mean? I don't understand the philosophy of what Rob Palenka is doing. I don't think he's serious.

So the Lakers are very unserious, right now. I think that they just kind of resigned to the fact that let's just get AD healthy. See if we still have him or if we have acid trade and let's get LeBron past Corinne and let's just coordinate his career. Yeah, that's got to be it because you.

I, Pat, they did they were looking for defense. Corrilla defense. Pat, they have a rough in the back court. It's got a that's kind of a fight situation.

You got some good defense, but you got some guys on your hands. It's so insane that I hate to give it up a young T.H.D. for the Lakers. Sally Johnson rejuvenated his career because he was a street guy and now he's back on.

So it's just it's a lot to give up for Pat. And it's interesting to see what that's going to do. You needed some shooting and you're not you didn't have that. So we'll just see what happens.

Do you think this is just a almost like you know, you know, he said LeBron will obviously have the ball and a little bit more. But do you think this is now definitely Westbrook is gone? Because he taught my Westbrook in him on the same team. Like that's why I'm thinking that the Lakers and the Nets had to have some kind of dialogue and that's why they didn't do anything with Russ right now.

Because I think that either they have a dialogue and they were like, let's just see where we are the Nets speaking to the lake and let's see where we are at the deadline. If Harry's still acting up, I think they're willing to blow the Nets up to the art. The Lakers from their perspective, I think that the only thing that they had to do with Russ this offseason was try to get him out of there. But I don't think the link will put enough picks in any deals.

And he's not going to make any moves because I don't think their cap is good enough to bring in anybody that's amazing. So you guys like Miles Turner, who they could look at, you got guys like, but he was maybe they could look at them. But still, that's not enough when you're talking about LeBron's name. You need more, you need shooting, you need defenders, but you trade it all that way for us.

That's a lot of link is kicking us up right now. The whole purpose of the show, one of the things we wanted to try was to do a call-in show. So if you are a member, head over to the community tab, click the link, jump into the queue matter, we'll bring you guys up in about 10 minutes. So don't go there.

Go in and get your spot in. Especially Julian, I see you talking a lot in the chat, bro. So yeah, man, click that link. Come on, man.

And let us and everybody watching now and in the future know how you feel as a Lakers fan. So but anyway, let's talk about your boy, Chad LeBron's since we're on the Lakers to go out. He is done for the year. Cue, I think it was you that commented to Presley.

One again, it's on the one on those lines. Yeah, like just with all the pics that they have coming up, I think Sam Presley is not having to be competitive the next two draft. And I think that it's all about this kid over in France. Did this give Victor, Winba and Janup please forgive me, but Victor, for sure.

Wow, yeah. He's like seven, seven, six, seven, oh, some crazy shit like insane. And it's like him next to Chad. This is like a bunch of anthropomorphs like in shape, right around.

Basically, yeah, like if y'all see Jordan Peele's note, just a bunch of them little flailing things that they use. And so they were like a bunch of team full of them. And I like what they got with Dorit and Shagealji. So they were able to put anything together.

Wow. Wow. Yeah, I saw you. I think I'll have mentioned how differently look side by side.

And I saw the video. I was like, wow, I got to be crazy. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was.

There was a lot of hype around him, you know, people. And I wanted to see him play. I wanted to see if he lived up to the hype, because I know he had that one good game. And then that was it.

You know, so I was waiting to see what he did against, you know, some of the big boys. But yeah, we need a chance to see that. So hopefully, I mean, we'll see him in a year. There was something else I wanted to bring up as well.

But while I look for that, Q, do you have anything you want to talk about? I want to talk about what y'all think, if we want to venture into this NFL real quick. I want to know what y'all think about the whole sound pick to the Alex stuff. Like, we all like, where do y'all happen?

You think that Michael Carty with everything that Jerry don't love about puppets and whatnot, was this just quick intermission of all the Cowboys? All the stuff that he loves about having a puppet head coach, he's going to get far in a conversation with a guy like Sean Payton, was just so like headstrong in his program. That's what he was going to happen next season, he's just going to be with Michael Carty for the next four years. And they're like, he's asking when he's going to go fire.

I honestly think that it's already done. I think they already got something in place with it. Tamper and why, you got to kind of wait it out. I think that's why he's still the head coach, Michael Carty, is still there.

Because I get exactly what you're saying. I understand that he's not a guy that gives up the pro easy. But some of those guys like that are not realistic. So they don't really think about it like he, Jerry, don't probably think he's control free.

You know, like he really don't even know himself like that. You know, I'm bad in a sense that and he wants to win. It's true that he wants to win. So he'll do what it takes to get it done.

And I think bringing Sean Payton in there is a good look for that team. That's something he really needs to do with the form. How about you, thinking of the subject deal? You know, as this ocean I'm painting, it's really interesting because sometimes these names started as like rumors and that people just kind of say stuff.

But then they kind of over time sort of filled up. You know, I think more reporters and stuff started doing digging, more stuff leak out. You know, it's kind of reminiscent of the whole Miami-Dawg I saw Jerry Jones was, I don't watch it, but I saw he was on first eight calling and I see they smell something like that. But a couple of them, some here, some there by Mike McCarthy, they get him out of their champagne.

It's a great job. I can see him definitely coming through and taking that position. So, Julian said he can't join us tonight. So he said he got us next time.

He at work. Get the money, bro. We got the money, bro. But yeah, so we'll see.

It's just my thing is, champagne's a good coach. But could he do more with that Cowboys thing? And that's what I was thinking about. Are we kind of overrated Dallas's talent?

Open his last couple of times. There's like over the last eight seasons, there's been like four teams that people look at the Cowboys and be like, this team under G. But every time I look at those teams for real, I'm like, which coach could get a lot out of this thing? And I'm like, I think that they're just reaching their ceiling or right below their ceiling when they flame out the first round, or they don't make it into playoffs.

And they get to buy two games. I don't think that they are really that talented of a defense historically the last two years for it to be like, you know, on both sides of the ball, even like, I don't know, but some beyond like Zeke's, but beyond that is Zeke's working years. I'm just not seeing you. I'm not seeing that like team.

I'm like, OK, they could have broke right. And things could have went when they lost to the Rams, but yeah, yeah, it's just I just never saw it. So I guess for me, I feel a little different about it because I remember that team watching even in the first game against Tampa Bay when they played. And that was holding his own team was good.

I think it was a lot of middle areas that you see a bunch of milk stuff going on with them. And that's what caused them a lot of game. So in saying that because of the thing, the little thing that you can correct. I think coach will go a long way.

They didn't move. They weren't blown out in a lot of those games, a lot of them work those games. And you saw so many coaching errors, time management, player management, who knows how those practices went. I just didn't trust Trust McCarthy with that team.

So in saying that I think that a new coach could have done a little bit more of that unit, even if you know, even even added a Sean Payton, make it to two, three more wins. And that's pretty much all you need. Hmm. One more thing I wanted to ask a real quick, probably gets to the 30 minute mark.

How they feel about you think the NBA owners and whoever when it comes up for that time to discuss contracts or not, you think that with the exorbitant amount of money that they're starting to give these players, especially rookie, even when they're not even a power that the players have that in light of chat home where injury, are they going to start to put in stipulations and like, yeah, you all cannot play and pro and like we're going to give you $50 million of me. It's a time for a gig and all yada yada yada yada yada yada. If we're going to give you hundreds of millions, you can't do the pro and for some game stop manager can follow in your fucking chain. Now we got to misplay off the enemy.

So yes, I think so. I think that this is the sign of time to come because like you said, it could be the case where we're pressing these guys are not missing chat for this year. He needed a red shirt here. He needed it anyway, because you can, like I said, look at LeBron's body next to his.

That wouldn't that would have been right nowhere. So we're saying that he needed it. But the next guy didn't want LeBron to get hurt. Like you said in the chat, what's the money that fell on the bronze plate?

You know what I'm saying? It was the other way around. Maybe kicking himself. So I think they will put something in play to protect these guys and make sure that they're protecting the investment because that's money.

And money like that. Did you just say that Chantney to sit out of here? Yes. Because he was real.

Shelfen, come on, man. He's old. We he had plenty of time to drink milk and stuff and get it stuff right. He did, but if you think about it, man, and this is true, these guys, you know, he wasn't a professional.

He was a college player. So when saying that, you know, they have some, you know, they have people in the place that can go with things within and teach them the game and teach them how to work out and how to eat and stuff like that. But it's still a totally different concept than being a professional and having somebody with this man who can have a shift about teaching a real workout partner where he's concentrating on not school work, but anyway. But I'm saying you're not concentrating on what you're doing outside of there.

You just got one focus and it's basketball. It's not necessarily by him getting bigger. Okay, said it's about him getting stronger. You don't have to get much bigger.

You just got to get stronger. You just got to get yourself the way you can handle that load. And that's what I'm looking for. Did KG and KG get a chance to sit up?

They did. I'm getting a chance to sit up. Well, I'm saying, well, I'm saying is he got hurt. Now, if he hadn't got hurt, wait, it would have just been what it was.

But I'm saying for that, he, him getting hurt is not necessarily the worst thing that could happen. They kind of get a chance to get him acclimated to the NBA. It worked out for the Joel and B, the being sent a two degree. No guys that worked out for.

No guy hurt on something. I see what you mean. Because it's like Sam Parsley came out and he recruited that saying it's not about his weight. He's the continued exactly what he's doing.

This was a contact injury. You know what I mean? He'll be OK. And we're disappointed for him.

But yeah, I mean, so I don't know if it's necessarily the fact that he's just too real because I look at guys like and obviously this is not a maybe I shouldn't use this example. But we look at guys of wiry frames like Nerla's Noelle or, you know, following maker, all those guys, like who came through the league. I'm the name of Brandon. You remember Tom, maybe you're real fan.

But it's like when they come into the league, I don't see them necessarily just get completely bullied. Everybody gets bullied by the big dogs. You know, if it's in beat or if it's, you know, I mean, you know, it just happens. But really do I see if you have like what like what I'm saying, when you have a strong foundational base, when you have like, you know, strong feet, when you have like, you know, an actual leg day regimen that you're doing as an athlete, I think it comes easier.

You just got to know how to use your strength that you possess. So I don't know if Chad is going to be injury hazard because of his lack of training. I think it's going to be about his contact injuries. It's not going to be non-contact.

It's all going to be contacted. Mm-hmm. Yeah, shout out to Tom maker. I remember who seems to be.

Yeah, I remember him too, man. But yeah, real quick, it's we're about 30 minutes into the show. So if you guys have anything you want to say, hit the link, come on the show. Share with your thoughts.

Give us your top coaches or top whatever from the NFL. We're doing running backs, quarterbacks, and next week, I think we'll be picking the division winners the week after that. I think we'll do a whole breakdown of NFL and where we see teams finishing. But yeah, yeah, hit the link.

If you guys are a member, go to the community tab and check that out. We want to hear from you. So yeah, why we got some time, man? You haven't been offered the last couple of weeks.

Not to put you on the spot, but we get our top six receivers and we already received the running backs. Yeah, so we're going to quarterback's names, right? Yeah, I think that's what he said. Just going to choose the show.

Nick, tell you what we're doing. But yeah, your top six running backs to the wide receivers and NFL. My next wide receivers. OK, number six, number six by Justin Jefferson.

Number five. See, it's the heart. You're going to give me the spot. He puts you on the spot.

OK, all right. I think we got to call this one. Do we have a call? I think so.

I think so. I think somebody finally got to join. Tell you about a bell. And you guys, audio only is fine as well.

You know, we don't want to see you if you don't want us to see you. So yeah, I think I see somebody. I don't know. Thank you for calling.

Hello. Oh, I hear somebody. I hear somebody. Oh, hey, I didn't know if I was on or not.

What up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys. Good. Who's speaking with J Snapshot?

You said that. I was going to go ahead. I just went down to the, I guess, the Dallas Cowboys thing in terms of coaching. I don't know how true it is in terms of adding a tone.

I could see it happening just with how much they've been losing recently. And I know he wanted to win. He's only getting older, he's in that car accident a while back. Just a little stuff like that.

I know he won a win really bad. So they got a really bad season last year with a lot of penalties leading the league and telling these things to the nature. I can see this. I don't even think them going to divisional is good enough at this point.

I think they got to go a little deeper because I feel like they've had the talent for a while he's paid Z key, he's paid to Marcus Lawrence, he's paid back. They paid Jayless Smith who they end up cutting. They got rid of a Mari. I think this is when time right now for them.

Are you a Dallas fan? I was a Dallas fan growing up with the huge Dallas fan. I was man, I was the racism and stuff like that. I feel like I can be associated with them like that.

I do love that even though I was Ole Miss. I was going back man. Oh shit. Yeah.

So I feel that man, you think that it comes down to McCarthy is safe only if he can handily get out of the first round. He looks like he has some control of what's going on as opposed to just being like just a damsel in distress, whatever's happening. He just gets ragged all by the season. He never looks like he's in control.

Are you saying that if he feels and looks like he's in more control when the playoff game then Jerry's going to be like, I can actually work with this. I don't need something. I can build on this. That too, like a beautiful loss maybe if it's something like that.

My dad was my dad's a Green Bay fan. So when that happened, when that switch happened, you know, they came right over the Dallas Cowboys and he was just like, good luck. Because you could tell that not something but Mike McCarthy was billed out a lot from Aaron Rodgers greatness and a lot of those moments. So I think Jerry Jones went out to that.

He wanted to win when they lost in that 2014 playoff with that catch. Type thing like I think that's going to back his mind. He wants to win, but he's just not producing right now. So I think like you said, if he don't go deep, it has to be like a really good loss, a really good loss.

Last question I have you, Jason. So you think is Michael Parsons the best player on Dallas right now? Just one last. I think so.

I like honestly, I don't think now I mean, I feel like Zeke is probably like a flip with a coin. I think if he doesn't have a really amazing year this year, it's probably up for him. But I think it's between them two obviously. And I think it's up losing Tyron Smith.

I think he was a really great player on that team. Losing him again to just suck. You go to that every year. Yeah, I think Michael Parsons is real deal true.

Do you have a favorite team in NFL or do you follow? I know you were talking about raising the ****. I keep up with the sport. I grew up playing football and I grew up playing baseball.

I'm always going to be a fan of the sport. I got family that plays in NFL and stuff like that. I'm always going to be a fan of the sport. Just the fan of the business, never that other business.

No, I start on real quick. I got family. It's different over here. Yeah, I got sources.

Last thing Jay, what are you calling from your? Right now I'm in Nashville. I'm in Nashville. OK, it's Mike Lewis from Nashville.

Yeah, he has well. Yeah, yeah. I've been here since 2010. Check out the Ismae Simone episode everybody is watching, listening.

He kind of goes into his history, his origin story on there. But you have a cousin that stayed in Nashville. I don't know if she's still there, but she she didn't win when we all left from Meridian. She's originally from Cali.

But yeah, I've been there a few times. It's pretty cool. I moved that because of my girl. She's from here.

I left at the college. Oh, so where you live? Right here. I bounced around.

Oh, Miss, I grew up kind of in South Haven, Mississippi, Mississippi, Mississippi. I was in New York, Detroit a little bit. I kind of bounced around a lot of my mom working and stuff like that. South Haven, it's Mississippi is probably where I claimed best where I graduated high school from.

That's why I went to the US. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Meridian, Mississippi.

Yeah. Yeah, I know. I'm a huge fan of God. I listen to the type of Michael not was in college.

I was playing like all of the Ismae still on episodes like going my night shifts at Walgreens. Like time when we train all the y'all. But you're so appreciative. I'm going to catch years in the words of the Walgreens and CVS is all that I want to come up now, but I appreciate it.

Y'all have y'all get one down. Hey, you got a good man. If you move over, I broke down. Yeah.

Yeah. That's a little bit for sure. Really. That's a little bit.

You can go on. I think we got somebody else. Yeah, I appreciate it. I'll get out of here.

Hey, man. But yeah, we appreciate you being like one of the first. The first one. I had to.

I love to support you guys. I had to be here. You made history. I appreciate it.

I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Right?

Who's on the line? Is that my guy, E-Gway? You going all y'all? Was Hannah the artist?

Yeah, thanks. I'm not going to do my thing. Yes, sir. No, no, I'm a plug, man.

I'm a plug, man. You know, because I think everybody, again, I said this on Tuesday, I'm going to say it again. Check out this man stuff on Instagram. Commission's on work for him and he's really, really dope.

We've seen it. He's got some stuff for us, man. So, yeah, make sure you guys go check him out. Yeah, I think.

Yeah, thanks for the plug. No, man. Yeah, I mean, I, you know, I won't be saying it wasn't good. I know because he ain't no like nothing, boys.

So that's how you know. Yeah. I can't hate everything. What you want to talk about today, man?

Hey, all right. So we got to know it's going on with Katie and the Brooklyn. That's the idea. I think that like, I don't know the NBA will put some type of protocols to like prevent some type of power and the players and ownership, whatever.

Are you saying that like NBA is going to try to get like retroactive, like revenge, Katie, through like discipline, the players more with, you know, you mean, just in general, where they can't have as much power that they're starting to take, right? Like a power struggle. Yeah, yeah. Like, like, they might want to intervene with like players in the middle of their contract and then all of a sudden you want to act up a deal.

And like, just cause like, you know, much of a rough, just to get out. You think like, any deal with like step in and like do something about that? 100% 100%. I think that it's going to have to happen because you're dealing with situations like this at this point, contracts need nothing.

If a player can just come in the room and tell you I want out. And that's what you're seeing. At one point, it was every so often and it was only certain players that were making these demands and now that's in both sports, that's in football and basketball. They're just deciding all of a sudden, I don't want to be here anymore.

I saw a day where one of the jet players of all people is making a trade demand. I'm like, everybody's just making trade demand. And it's not going to hold up because it is all in the lead and they're going to get their lead back. I think that I think the opposite of shuttle in terms of, yeah, it's going to happen because I think that labor struggles always might happen with the, you know, I mean, any type of poor prescriptive.

But that doesn't mean that the players are going to relinquish any power because it's still a player's league in my opinion. I think that it's definitely still the owners like game. But if we're talking about how the league function, it's definitely the workers who run it. You know what I mean?

It's still going to be the elite class of talent in the NBA that dictates what's going to happen. If LeBron, Katie, Kyrie, Steph, Giannis and B. Yokich all want to move in a certain direction, the league is going to move in that direction. It's just that simple.

The owners can cry and get mad all they want. At the end of the day, the NBA players have no problem with a lockout. You know, I mean, they have no issue because they'll be in the pro-ams doing all that. If the minute that they say you saw what happened in 2011, LeBron, Kobe, James, our audience was in, truly, we have no problem because we know that they're coming to see us.

They're not coming to go to the crypto arena. They're coming to watch me put up shots. And I think that there's definitely a competition to be had with fans from that fan perspective talking about what was best for parody and all this stuff. That's a separate combo.

We're talking about just what do the owners think? They can think whatever, but the lead players are always going to control how this goes and they're not going to relinquish more power. If they're going to ask them more. I am.

This is a very good question. And and I don't know what they can do. Right. But I know if I know they can find a way to figure it out.

So and even if they make some shit up out of the book, this is just what they do. You know, I'm all for the players throwing their weight around. I think that there is, you know, you're when you are a player, a certain kind of out, you know, you have the privilege to be able to do it. No, Patrick Bell, we can't do that.

You know, that's kind of but Katie is different. But this whole situation and we have to see what Adam Silver says about this. You know, it really creates a problem for the nets and any order that wants to try to trade for them because at that point, it becomes who has the most leverage. And so I can I can feel it that they don't like it.

And they they don't want to sign a player to a contract and then on a will for no apparent reason or a little fair reason. He just wants out. You know, I would feel some kind of way about that. If I was a business owner and I just signed this guy, he committed to me and then all of a sudden he wants to leave, you know, so and I think about Katie is that you knew that well, I think didn't ask him, I think he right.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's it. I mean, shit, OK, well, that's different. But the point of the fact of the matter is like, you know, you agreed to this contract extension and said, or said, and now you want to leave.

So I think that they will possibly try to look at certain protections. Will they find is there something that they can do to protect themselves? I don't know. But you know, this country man, they make up shit all the time.

You know, leave eight percent black and they're not going to let them make a slide. Right. Yeah, that's exactly. That's why I'm like, yeah, you guys are doing too much.

Yeah. You know, so we ain't going to let this happen. Come on, man, this hourly. We pay you guys to run around, throw the ball and shoot it in docket.

Yeah, I think it's a lot of drama. So they'll ask for a little bit more back. I think that they'll end up having like little milk toast protections added to contracts. Just the fee the owners have given some risk.

But the owners, but the players, I mean, ultimately will still have power. It'll be things like maybe like the first two years of signing up max. You have a no tray cause then that after that, you know, I mean, stuff like that. Mike, if you ask people's bird rights or something or if you have people's draft rights, like how you get the first two years, three years, our max.

And you have to sign a no-truck. You know, I mean, just stuff like that. So who knows, man, but that's a great question. Because that's where the future of sports is going, man, where people are just reaching in my opinion, the logical conclusion of do we need the ownership?

Like do we really need y'all? I think that's where the logical conclusion is headed to where we're like, what do we really need to make this the purest form of if we're talking about commercialism and whatnot? Yeah, maybe we do need ownership and core construction. But if we're talking about the love of the game that everyone keeps saying is missing and whatnot, I think that we're having the different combo, but this is going to lead us to that and we're going to have to have some of the conversations about it.

The room, room. Yeah, Sheldon, if you can or Elodra, put up email from comment on the screen. But it's actually a good point. You know, K.D.

plus, we'll have it with Obear. It's like what kind of leverage? If you're the next, you know that you can't get the value back for K.D. You know, so you kind of stuff and you had to hold out and eventually K.D.

You know, he folded. So one of you guys in the group chat mentioned that Khari would be gone by halfway to the receiver. Yeah, I said that I think Khari would probably might be in the past, I said earlier in the show, I think Khari might be gone by the deadline in December. Because I don't who knows, maybe all the confusion we're working on, right?

You know, who really knows if Khari's going to want to play what something happens with the Simmons or K.D. said something or Steve Nash or something wrong with K.D. You know what I mean? There's just so much volatility and so much powder.

Like everywhere, man, it's like a couple of any sex. Yeah. You know, it is made up of people to say that we don't know if he's going to laugh on because he's like, he got the whole race of him being on the bench because he's late. He was like, you don't know what to get from K.D.

Do you? Exactly. But K.D. didn't know.

We got to sit them away anyway. Because, you know, that man, that man, he's been rough with him. So, but yeah, man, anyway, man, appreciate you. Always come through, man.

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We appreciate everybody watching. Thank you. Somebody said you tapped down some of your comments. Was that you?

Yeah, it's not good. It's not good. It's not good. Yeah.

Got that. All right. All right. Good to go.

It's not good. It's not good. Oh, man. Is there anybody else?

We're going to call it tonight, man. We appreciate everybody showing up. We got some time. So if you remember, hit that community tab, man, and pop in.

You know, 60 seconds. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe the bills are the point.

The putt guy. Yes. I saw that Rob. Put that in the chat.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Our still ultra hit me after the show.

Somehow. Twitter, Instagram, one of those spots. And we can talk offline. But yeah, I saw that game right, man.

That's fucking nuts. Bro. The opponent, right? For the bills.

Yeah. He was in the wrong way. Yeah. By the way, by the way, by the way, number six, you got to give me.

It's a very good deal. Number five, give me hop. Number four, give me stuff on day. Number three, you got to give me.

You got to give me your March 8th. Number two, you got to give me Cooper Cup. Number one, the Montana. OK.

All right. What did you put, Jefferson? I think I had Jefferson. I had him at first, but I had to drop him.

I put Tyreeka sick instead of Jefferson. Wait, Regal, there's one more time for me quick. You just do it real fast. Six, let me get Tyree.

Number five, I got I still got the other half. I got to drop him because of the whole suspension. But I still got five, four digs, three, Jamartes, two, Cup, one, Devonta. Mm-hmm.

I just got to put Jefferson in there. That's my biggest. He's so great though. He's like, he's going to be so amazing.

That's why I'm so mad at the Eagles. Imagine if we had fucking ages around Devonta. I mean, we'd be great. Yeah, it'd be ridiculous.

And I just think he's that guy. He made her cousins with these. So he's one of my favorite receivers in the league. I mean, I don't have the problem anybody done in this.

I just don't see to wreak having a better year than she ever him. I don't see how I can have a better year. He'll be a lot of people this season of top two. I can see it.

I mean, I think Jefferson Jefferson is probably I just want to see one more season before I knock off. I feel I think I have it still just hands down the best combo of like shifting this that we like in Odell with like the power and the catching. He's really like a strong wide receiver. People don't see how he body receivers all the time and his hop to not just being wrong, but his actual work.

Yeah, Josh Rose as we can't put though. There you go. We should don't ask me why I did this to myself, but my NFC team is the Bears and AFC is the jet. You guys won't read for yourself, but if you're not watching, I'm reading 40.

Which one my two squads can you see having the better year? Man, that's tough. See, see, I think you should buy a Bears jersey and then buy a Jets jersey. Bring them home and throw both of them.

Shiss and trash. I think that is. That is what I was going to cue as well. So we'll bring you guys on.

Don't go anywhere. I'll say because Zach Wilson is helping. And I don't know the ladies on I think the Jets have more talent, so they should they should do better than the Bears. Give me the Bears just because that is going to be a dog.

And everybody's talking about this Jets. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I think the Jets going to be better. Let me just like that.

If Zach Wilson's coming back, right? Did he completely tear his AC out of his head and he dodged it? No, he's only out two to four weeks, but that's right. He fought the problem.

Him coming back is going to hurt. He's a father for him. I don't know, man. I think that they make it a message.

That's going to get like six games one year. And we're going to be like, damn, that a good season. Yeah. See, like I said, the AFC system tough.

This is going to be hard. That's the goal. And everybody's talking about the Jets, how they're improved and all the stuff like that. So teams ain't going to sleep on the Jets.

Like they will. Ain't nobody's going to be there. So teams don't sleep on the Bears. Bears don't get it done.

I knew the Jets weren't serious when they signed the Navy on bill. Oh, God. Yeah. Don't hold that damn money like that.

They don't know. They signed a name. They didn't take money. I like to just bet on the headprank war.

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