Well, live. Well, live. Hi, everyone. And welcome to the Lady of the Rock podcast.
It's a nerdy podcast hosted by Northern nerds. I am, one of your hosts, son. Be cool. You be cool.
Sorry. Yes. And I'm under the horse pole. And, Jonas tonight, we have the beautiful, delectable, the godlike, the wonderful, and no, I'm not talking about Little Chris.
But, Jake, we have got the lovely, good nerdy Jesus back with us once again. And... I mean, a new place. Yes.
And climbed out of these hobbit hall, out of the darkness that was, top grumps, and the lightness that was anime club. We have Chris. How are you, Chris? All right.
Yeah. All right. That's kind of these cash figures now, isn't it? All right.
Kind of is, or... Which? Which? Which?
Yeah, I say a big nerdy of North. Thank you to both Chris and Toonie from our community for helping me move out. Look in everything boxes, all the heavy stuff could not. Would have died without you.
So, thank you so much. It's not just trying to work away, where you live so they can rob you. Because the odd, don't you? Fine.
I won't notice if you took anything, because there's too much stuff everywhere. But yeah, well, they always say, like, it takes a village, doesn't it? It takes the nerds. Yeah.
It takes a nerdy clean. Not a spoiler, thanks, but accidentally did steal that from your house. Yeah. Absolutely.
You think... You are the lighter guy. I don't believe it. It was by accident.
You were so light, that you little greeny little hubby hands or would it be a little bit old? Have we ever talked about Chris's lighter thing on air before? Constantly? Don't think so.
You can tell this trip. Yeah, I was going to say you can tell people that you've been getting into your weird projects. People like hearing about that kind of thing. Oh, yes.
I've just acted way so little to money on eBay by vintage lighters. I'm trying to cause the North Olam great fire again. Maybe. Will he's wax melts?
That's not that. I don't mind him buying the lighters. It's the bit of metal he's bought. He's going to make his own lighter.
That terrifies me. That's the scary thing. Look at these eyes. Look at the fucking feet.
No, I'm sorry. You can't do that, Chris. You're not allowed. Well, you've got a kid, and everything.
The power of the sun and the fire. My hands. That's a worry involved. Well, Darwin isn't that the best.
That's all I'm saying. I mean, I do have access to blow torches and stuff. That's terrifying. Yes.
I do use it as a lighter. Oh, Chris. Like an action movie, Starling. Yeah, it makes me a team or something.
Yeah. Just apologize as well. I actually keep it. Yeah.
Just apologize to people as well. I know I might not know what it's going to be on my mind. I might be blinking a lot during this episode one. I've been to the eye place to get eye drops in.
I can't see a fucking thing, I'll be honest. Everything is a blur. And apparently one of me eyes is fucked. So when I watch and we'll be with her soon, we'll be safe.
One of my willy. It really is really fucking good. You're going to be fantasy. I'll drive in pirate ship with the sewer.
I'll put that in fantasy. I can't drive, so we'll be giving someone directions. Yeah. That's what happens there, isn't it?
I'm not going to put an octopus. I'd be deleted. Yes. M, one thing as well, I've noticed that YouTube started doing.
I don't know why. But when you comment, yeah, when you comment, Lord, you get named Ivan number one, number two on number three. So currently, Phoebe is number two. I can't see who's number one on who is number three.
Um, but yeah. Sounds like a manipulation tactic to drive engagement. Yeah. It's kind of like me.
Yeah. So guys, yeah. So guys, the more message and comments you're making, get higher up in the rankings and higher up in my heart. Wait, it's called the like you are.
The higher ranks you. The lowest ranking gets blocked. Gets denied. Death by ranking, but that's how it is.
Is that a new thing for top grumps now? Death by ranking coming soon. Oh, yes. Your party leaves number one.
Oh, leaves number one. Oh, yes. So yes, Sammy, you want to get the disclaimer? Because we might as well, because we're going to get canceled tonight.
Maybe. I'm going to get something. Yeah. Wow.
So everything is going to do something. So there's our opinions and our opinions alone. If you would like to discuss anything from today's episode, which I probably use, come and join us on the Facebook page. Trending the nerdy of North Discord.
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Keep it kind and keep the toxic behaviour out of the Nerdy's. Yes. And this is an episode I dare say. I thought we would never do.
Yeah, because I'm not the biggest fan of some. I thought we might have done other individual movies or talk about certain aspects. But Sammy's been a trooper. Let's be honest.
Let's take a round of applause to Sammy. She's been, like, perfect sport, putting up with my little demands and me basically getting more choices. So tonight is a little bit of a celebration and a little bit of, let's get to give Sammy a little. Oh, yeah.
I mean, you saw what I picked on for Sashaween. Yeah, that's why it scared me a little bit. I think I'm going to pick a lot. Yeah.
But oh, I'll take it. Thanks. So yes, we do in Tarantino movies. And again, to throw a little bit of a curveball in there.
I didn't tell the chumps and chumps that these rules. I just thought people would get the one bearing. I'll try and work it out. I'll try and be clever.
We're not just doing Tarantino or directed movies always, prevalent in it could be Tarantino, starred in or Tarantino wrote. So you might not have any involvement. So I'm interested because I'll be honest, it's been a busy week. And like Jake was working his ass off yesterday at Nerdfest.
Bless him being the promoter with the most and having the most personally. I've ever seen anyone at a convention, especially at the Nerdfest conversation. Especially more personally, the most person, the nasty Nick. We know you Nick.
Oh my God, he's so miserable. It's in his name. He's your fucking burger. Hey, you veggies.
Yeah, thanks to anyone who said hi in the chat with us. The Castle of Coven girls were lovely. I hung out with them all day. And either stage show was great.
Lena and the Lions were proper class acts as well. So it was all good. Yeah, it was a bit scary. I can do better.
First time, you guys as well, for all your support and whoops and claps. I got teenagers, don't worry. You couldn't hear us when we were leaving the one with Gunchy. Oh, he was when the cosplay competition was going on.
We were all of us literally trying to get your attention. I did. I finally saw Becker. It's so funny.
Yeah, I remember that. Yes. So the task was initially for Tarantino movies or appearances or things. And we're going to talk about which ones we've now.
It's kind of migrated into one because we tried to keep it secret, but Sammy's pulls were the most predictable. Let's be honest. And Chris was dying to tell us as I found out during anime club, him and Phady don't like to keep secrets. Don't like to keep things.
They like to have discussions before. I'm like, what the fuck is this? What? They got really angry.
I wouldn't tell them if I like. They got really angry. I didn't tell them if I like to move before. Oh my goodness.
So yeah, it was quite funny. But yeah, so it's going to be a difficult one. We're not really going to go like round Robin or just talk about like different ones. So the first one, I think we'll talk about his first movie, shall we?
Let's go for it. Are you going to bark at me? Doggy? All day?
Or are you going to bite? One of the most iconic, I would say crime drama crime thriller. Basically crime go wrong that you don't actually see the crime as well, which is quite interesting to reservoir dogs. So this one is one of my favorite of Tarantino's.
I've got the steel book where for the David Eking out, it's a gas canister. So you have to open the gas canister and the David Eking books are in a match book, which is, yeah, so that was cool. That was cool. But this was my first, I think most people's first introduction to Tarantino because it was the first one he actually directed.
When he, I think when he was promoted, he had blonde hair and he was wearing Hawaiian shirts. He was like, who is this mad man talking about the movie? It's a joke. It's a joke?
So yeah, what your guys thought in this movie? What did you think is when you're seeing this like back in the day? Like it is, I've re-watched it recently. Well, I can quickly jump in because I had never seen it.
Until last week when I did watch it in prep for this. But it's one of them ones like you were saying for where it's been really heavily referenced, like in the Simpsons alone. It's probably had like three or four direct references. I mean, there's a lot of Tarantino in the Simpsons when you think about it.
But yeah, like that you're cut and seen the David Eking chain scratchy. So I was aware of some things, but I had no idea the story was basically like, it's sort of like a bottle episode, isn't it, when it all stuck in the warehouse? And different people come and go, but you sort of gradually get the story piece together. Like as it goes, like, I super enjoyed it because it was, you could tell it was like the actors get into to sit there with their characters and be like, okay, I'm having one on ones with each different like combo of people.
But yeah, like it was, I was super impressed and I was like, oh, you have seen that referenced everywhere. I think it was everything. It's an amazing money. You can watch a movie like that that has been heavily referenced.
And you're like, oh, I get that. Oh, I get that one. Like I definitely knew where it was from. And then it must have just been like loads of directors, like favorites back in the day, like, you know, people were writing TV and stuff.
They must have been one to put little pieces of this. But yeah, so I was a total, a total new beta this. But I'm glad I did watch it finally. I'm pleased.
I was blown away at that. The writing and everything was great. And it was how he got with his cast. Is it Tavi Kightel as well?
Yeah, he's pretty much like, I would say one of the main guys, like him and Steve Visemi. Tim Roth. Yeah. Michael, Michael Magston, or as we might have been called, Michael Manson.
A little different. He had the teller. Very different person. And yeah, Chris Penn as well.
I think Chris Penn doesn't get as much credit as he does. I have said this. I have said this so many times about Chris Penn. In my eyes, probably about a character actor that he's rather will ever be.
I know he's not long ago with us anymore and is so sad. But as a character actor, you and someone who could have really gotten his teeth into any single one of Tarantino's future projects. I love him. I think he's fantastic.
Yeah, you've got him, Jinx. Do you want to go? I think shortly. Well, but you Chris, what did you think of it?
Have you? Um, right. So to be honest, when I first watched it, I didn't like it. I don't think I would have liked it as if I watched it as a kid, like, or like a teen.
I think it's a bit like, it's a bit too much of a thinker because it's like all conversation like this. It is. Yeah. When I first watched it, you get the scene, like the model of the tip and then stuff like that.
I didn't get it because I didn't understand tip in any way. Yeah. I'm not the director. And I was just like, yeah, but it's grown in this.
I do really like it now. Um, but it took a while. Even the stuck in the middle you see another. Which like, you know, when you see parody versions, like that I built that up in my head.
I was like, oh, you probably see something, but it is like off camera technically. Like it's like it's fully hidden. But yeah, like I did, I did like just randomly see like a TikTok thing where Michael Madsen was talking about that in an interview. And he said like, the wouldn't let him practice the dance.
And he just had to be like, hey, I guess I'll do this. So like, I sort of say what's the radio on? And he's just like, I don't know if I put that radio on because I didn't have any music. I didn't know what song I was done to do.
Yeah. And it's all that weird like 70s radio backdrop. It's kind of like a lot of that. Yeah.
I love that. Yeah. Yeah. That's one thing.
Yeah. It's like, it's in world, but it's also like part of the narration in a way. Yeah. He's really going to do in that.
One that we'll talk about later, he does it quite a bit. But it also gives me GTA vibes. Yeah. Like massive GTA vibes.
I think GTA based its radio stations off this movie. Patuov. Yeah. Patuov.
It's definitely the kind of movie they would like pull liberally from and not really to say. Whether we get them ideas as well. Yeah. What about you Sammy?
What's your thoughts on Reservoir Dogs? It's something that I can never remember how I watched it. It just appeared in my life. And I was obsessed with this movie back on the tier.
And this is something I would watch continuously. And named my hamsters after making me sister. Got hamsters. She had two Russian dwarf hamsters.
And I had one white one and he was Mr. White. And she got Mr. Blondam, Mr.
Pink. Yeah. So it was just it was huge. And for some reason, maybe because I've been spoiled by other movies, this has taken like within him, like with the entertainer.
That this will always take like a backseat to them. So if I'm like in a Tarantino mood, it's never going to be the first one I go and pick up. Yeah. Yeah.
It's not particularly flashy or anything like an all really apart from. But it's so good. Yeah. Apart from like the intro with like the slow mo war, all that everyone in the suits and everything.
How much do I want someone to push someone over in the room? That's so brilliant. I'm so brilliant. The rest of the movies doesn't like a dirty bloody warehouse.
It's not like wear a house. It's such a master classical. When you really break it down because you've got two parts of it, you've got the dinosaur scene and then you've got the warehouse. And in the dinosaur scene, you are getting a full masterclass of acting.
You've got some of the best of the best sitting around that table, just having a conversation. And then you've got a kind of action path, like more movement and more being taken up the space really well. If you are in acting, which I was back in the day, it is such a masterclass of like how to how to deliver lines, how to actually have a conversation with someone when it's all scripted and it's not meant to be scripted. It's meant to feel all loosey-goosey-tighting and it's like that kind of realization.
They're all horrible people over the course of the movie. Some of them managed to sort of persuade you like round to there, we have thinking, but then they usually dash it like not long after. Because like Steve Bissemi and Mr Pink, I think, his character seems the most logical for a good long time. And then you're like, well, actually he's ready to just like go off on his own and steal the diamonds.
It breaks my heart though between Tim Roth and Harvey Keitel's character. There was such a bond connected, it's not meant to happen. But within their moments, it's taken place in front of your eyes and all I want him to do with the end is shoot Tim Roth in the head. Yeah, it almost does as well.
I want him to do it because it's like you've broke his heart. Yeah, but you have that moment. It's like what Jake said before with the ear scene. You don't see it.
At the end, he's got the gun pressed up. You hear the police come in, then it's just the black. And it's like leaves you without feeling what happened, what kind of like, what is the situation. And one thing I do love about Tarantino, Goofers and many points on this is he is steadfast in how he does things.
And it's his way of the highway. He has came out and said all the films that he's had a role in, directed or been a part of are in the same universe. So Reservoir Dogs is in the same universe as Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction is in the same universe as from Distal Dawn.
So the fact that like, say, Michael Madsen's Mr. Blonde could roll up in the Teti Twister and be, get like, say, fucked up with vampires and stuff like that. It's just brilliant. Well, that was meant to be a play like that was meant to be.
It was meant to be something that because it was going to be a case of Pulp Fiction and Vincent Vega's character because Vincent Vega and who's Mr Blonde? Mr Blonde, that's because I'm never making a McKeill fight nor that character because like we look like all that name, we love like Michael Madsen and Now House. And he's crazy in this movie. Yes.
That character, so Michael Madsen was cast in Pulp Fiction and he was meant to be, it's not Vincent Vega, it's Mr Blonde. But at the time, John Travolta was having a very tough time and he said this would be his comeback. This would be, this would, this is going to help him. I'd rather do that than steal it for himself.
And that's why he made Vincent Vega, Mr Blonde's brother. The style in this as well. And again, people might not see the reference points straight away. The way Tarantino directs films and has scenes that go on longer than others.
They give, the probably the reason why I'm drawn to certain movies I go find out. It's very Kevin Smith's. You can see Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino coming about at the same time. Their style of filmmaking is very much the same, except from Tarantino has a better eye and probably has better connections in like directors of photography than Kevin Smith does because Kevin Smith will admit his shots are shit, but dialogue wise, it's very real.
It's very easy and they're not scared to have long scenes. Like as Chris said, the tip scene is just the most chaotic interest in conversation because I could imagine any one of us in that type of situation having that similar kind of conversation. And it's so funny that you mention Kevin Smith because they know really good friends. And whenever any one of them has done a project, they would him, Roger Egoes and Tarantino would sit in a theatre and watch the work and they would sit and critique it.
They would make notes, they're written, they would sit and critique it, and then they would go away and they would actually listen to each other. The thing is with these three men and I include Roger Egoes and this is the movie fans and not just it's pure fandom and Tarantino out of all of them knows his movies and knows how to reference them. Yeah, makes sense that you say there's a little bit of a shared universe, like loosely obviously, but it makes sense because like everyone in this universe almost like loves to chat about fast food. Yeah, because that's all he loves to talk about.
It's conversation he knows. People who move on to the movie and read up all cigarettes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And before we move on to like the next film or the next choice, I just wanted to like there's two things I do love the aspect of this movie as well.
Well, one's controversial. The first one is basically the fact that to get this movie financed in mid, he wanted to direct true romance, but he couldn't do both. So he sold the script for true romance to get Reservoir Dogs made. So that's why like true months, as an image, it's actually one of my favourite films as well.
And it's just again, a powerhouse of dialogue and you can tell Tarantino, a fingerprint is hugely on that. But and if so, if he didn't sell that, we wouldn't have got Reservoir Dogs. Yeah. The other thing is again, this has never been confirmed or denied it as well.
The wouldn't, to see it's ripped off would be a thing, but it there is heavily influenced to this to a movie called City on Fire. It's like it was an Asian movie, but now it was like back in the day, I had notes, but I can't fucking read it. But yeah, so it was basically for years Quentin Tarantino was fighting the backlash that he ripped off this movie. And it was like, it's not ripped off, I was influenced, I used aspects and stuff like that.
So it's a similar type of story with like a crime that goes wrong and then it sort of fall out. Okay. Yeah, but I think like when it comes to like, I mean, we'll talk about it later, but like, a lot of people steal ideas from like Japanese cinema and stuff. It's usually the same handful, like, you know, seven samurai stuff like that.
Like George Lucas has done it at the tone, like Star Wars is basically like half that at times. So yeah, like, I think that's totally normal for directors to do. And especially when you're like translating it to like, oh, well, this is American style. Like this is like American mobster violence and sort of crime.
So it is, I don't think that's a bit rough. I think it is literally what he says, like an homage or like a inspired by type of thing. Definitely. So that was kind of like my first choice.
So Sammy with a being your pick. Sorry, I jumped in there. I just thought we'd start with the first one as well. Totally cool.
And I just want to, we just had a comment in the chat and I just want to just pick up on it just a second. And I'm sorry that that's how you feel. However, not crazy. Another random misplaced is normal conversation.
Well, yeah, that's your opinion as well. Yeah, of course. I think he does use that on purpose though, because it'll be like characters in a crazy stressful situation who sort of have a normal conversation. Like, you know, like there's parts in other like, you know, kill Bill and stuff where he's like, like talking to her, actually is like bleeding out.
But it's like a very normal conversation. So like, I think it's like a sort of intentional tactic to put the watcher off guard or make them feel weird about the situation. But take a video. I keep an conversation with someone you can talk like a general thing or how to deal with what's going on.
But then you can go off on a rant. I know like having a conversation with Chris most times. I'm telling them that guy right here, I think he thinks so again, that can be like seen as like a mispleaser or weird conversation. I think it's a bit of a rant as well.
Like the discord. Like me especially. Yeah. And you're like fried eggs or something.
What do you mean royale eggs? Yeah. Composition taking links. So much.
Do you know what I should have just left. I should have just left it to the actual pro. To be these answered and answered it. It's somewhat elegantly than I would have.
So with that, my pick is going to be. Wiggle your torso. Wiggle your motherfucking toe. It's another one.
It must have been appeared like oomph. Yeah. Yeah. I got 50, 50,000 for your Sammy wiggle your toe.
We've got to work. We've got to work. I'm not fucking sure yet. Yeah.
This movie is incredibly special to me. Right. Absolutely. And Paul new straight away.
That's why I had to give more than because originally three picks. I was good. I thought I'd have to give it one for. Because Sammy's got to pick two movies again.
Yeah. It's the what it's for some reason. It's the one that I watch it backwards by the way. I don't watch it forwards.
I know a lot of people argue with it as a two. Is that one is the better movie. But I actually prefer two over one. I know it's what you're saying.
I don't understand it. It's interesting. It's in that because number two is more western. Because you said.
Yeah. Hey, I know. And the fact that I should be more gravitated towards the first one. But again, my command since in this.
But it builds in it. I love a good revenge story. So. And I feel that's where the second one leads into.
Don't get me wrong. The artistry and the cinematography in the first one. Is some of the most best I have ever seen in a movie. The fact that he manages to use anime animation in it.
To tell the story and do it. Something that is so dramatically terrifying. And make it seem very beautiful. Yeah.
Not super memorable as well. Like because they use that style of like sticks out in your mind. Like those scenes like when she's under the bed. And like the actual word of input comes out of her mouth.
So I think like that's like super like a block of them. And yeah, like how volsy is that to just be like, I don't know. Now we're going to do an animated section. Just in the middle of the movie.
Just in a regular flashback. And by the same people, they can course the show as well. Is it actually? Yeah.
Is it really? That's so cool. I didn't know that. And I just I love the I do don't get around the first one.
I do love the end scene. The end scene where she is dressed in the nervously outfit. Yeah. I've had her I've had this figure.
I thought I don't know how long she saw old. She lost her sword, but she comes everywhere. Well, she's always sitting at the side of your desk. So we're going to put a call out now.
If anyone in the world or in the nerdism has a kill bill sword. For the model I think and donate a sanny. It's a problem. She'll wiggle the toes for you.
It's going to be a genuine patary hands. Yeah. It's going to be good. Oh my gosh.
My guy. And yeah, Beatrice, my cat is actually named after Beatrice. And it's just that Auntie didn't like Beatrice. Right.
So we had a we we down to Beatrice. But yeah, she's I don't know. It's hard to sometimes to put in the words why. You don't have to.
There's not not normally a why. It's just basically that doesn't resonate. But it's interesting. Like I'm really like I've watched the first one like so many times.
But I think I've only seen the second part like twice maybe in my entire life. And like I don't know what it is. Like I feel like I didn't need a finality to the story because I think like yeah. I think from what I see in the first one I'm like oh well there's no stopping this woman.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Like she doesn't end in a sort of bad stitch. She ends up like the height of sort of like you know revenge.
She's so good. Like it's so triumphant and everything like how it all ends. My kills Lucy Lewis character in like and what's beautiful. Yes and puts that horrible woman on the phone call like in the hospital like with all the limbs.
Yeah. Sophie. Like yeah. Oh Sophie.
I always remember her name and I went to see this in this cinema so many times. Oh that's cool. I only saw one DVD I think. Oh I know I went to the picture.
I was honestly obsessed with not the word and I went probably every other day to go and see it. See this was again north or north or dodgy up north. This was a bootlegs wet dream because when it first came out on a snidey DVD where you can get it. We got on the copy version the version that wasn't released in the UK.
To only about oh I would say about five six years ago that we actually got this cut where because you know the the fights thing with the here for the here for the here for the here for the here for the here for the here for the here. The crazy here. Yeah. Yeah.
The crazy here. Sorry. I'm like going to hug that one. Yeah.
Yeah. The crazy here. Yeah. The crazy here.
Um to get that past the UK census that like the uncut version of that is about 10 minutes long where it's cut down to about five minutes all in black and white. On the pirate scene out to the arrow it was uncut and all in in full colored glory and people went nuts to try and get their hands on that version because it was like oh. It was almost like when the Matrix got released there was a bit like Matrix version where Neil had put one of the agents with and it had put was seen and sent about the time as a really violent move. So the hard to cut the head was seen out of the lyrics to get the written that it was otherwise it was going to be a 15.
Um so it was a lot of that going around in like video games as well like there was like a couple of games that were like we exclusive so maybe it was like a Nintendo like a Europe sense of thing but it was a normal heroes which is like a very like a sort of sword fighting kind of you know nerd inspired like he has like a laser sort thing and it's like all very bit like on the nose video games. I had to make the blood sprays black in that for the European version but in America they had the full red blood sprays and everything and I think Mad World the game had a lot of trouble trying to get out when that wasn't black and white but the blood was red and it was like it was very like like the pencil drawn looking guys but it was like hyper violence and I think they had to go full black and white whereas America they got like the blood version was like as we had like what I can get away with. It's like the Dark Knight with Batman and the Heath Ledger that film has got zero blood in the whole movie just so it gets written because I said if there was one drop of blood because of how violent certain aspects of the pencil trick how like drop there is what he's nice and stuff he said if there's nothing. If there was one drop of blood it would have gotten a rating above the white ideas and it would have killed the movie for the audience because it wouldn't be like a PG rating or 12 rating so the kids could see that movie.
And what? The capital excel in toys and everything. We all know we've all learned through the movies that we've watched from the 90s that toys are important. But what about you Chris what do you think about the movie?
I loved it this was genuinely my first introduction to it in the Tarantino so I have snored on this and then watch back then forward. But there's been a little anime obsessed teenager I thought crazy everyone was talking about the black and white scene where the eyes got taken out and you were like fuck it out. That part's so good. Yeah, so many good scenes in that.
I didn't even realize that there was a non black and white actual version of the play. No, no, I was happy. Yeah. And then it was like oh yeah I've seen it but no one ever showed yet.
Could you have come to me and I've got your economy. He was the guy. He was the guy. He was the guy.
The crazy idea of fighting sequence is actually one of the best sword fighting cinema history. It is absolutely breathtaking. And we all know now that Uma wasn't alone in her fight. She's clearly not saying Chris or Donald in the three Mr tears.
She has the very great and unique amazing. So we've all as a stuntform and budget majority of it's doing all the hard work. If this movie is alone didn't cement Uma Therma as an action star. I don't know what we're off.
I know we talked about the first movie quite a lot but the second movie is such a shift in tone and shift in pacing as well because the first one is basically just so fast paced so like it was like a dwelling shop like everything's just moving going quick and got some of the most crazy things like the pussy wagon is just one of the funniest things that you had to say. At least the creepiest. Yeah. Yeah.
And yeah even the sort of kitchen fight that we see like early on is like super well done and super exciting and then you have to stop for the door coming in. It seems as if my other pick is kill bill too. We could just like lead into that just like. And to that.
Any phone that's got double hand addressed it was a nursing. I'm having just just giving me sorry. I think that was why I didn't like vibe so much with too because I was like thinking like oh well we'll get like escalation and sort of more of the same you know like the music is like the needle drops to like insane the good in volume one like you know that you just said the down with that with like horrible whistlin song that's kind of really unsettling and stuff. And yeah just there's so many like amazing songs and it which like time to you know always.
It's good needle drops. You think it's so well and so the first one is obviously heavily inspired by the you know Asian side of the movie that he's doing the second one. This is where I drink as plays a huge part in the soundtrack I can. Soundtracks these two are my all time favorite and I don't think I ever skip the song when I'm listening to it especially to because I love and my dream guys is mariachi and Spanish guitar.
I'm going to say it's some of the most beautiful beautiful songs and ever especially the last song where the trailers playing and it's always on a playlist. There's another one of my movies that I don't think I don't think I'm down in Mexico and great great song. Anyways what I was going to say is my favorite scene in Kill Bill Volume 2 is the travel scene. Right all right we finally see it.
Well you find it well it's not just what you see it it's the interaction beforehand. It's the level of intensity when Bill walks through the door to the conversation that they have and you feel quite calm like oh it's going to be okay. You know what happens and you know how it gets left and also and something else Jackson is in that scene. Just to point that out.
The one thing about that always sticks out for Kill Bill to volume 2 and it's probably down to my fear as well because I'm hugely claustrophobic. When she gets buried alive in the thing and she's just so calm and she's just punching her way out of it. It's like a call back to like the Bruce Lee one inch punch as well. That's the that and I often think of myself would that actually work?
No. I love that moment because that's the moment I go back to her training with Pimey and it's like oh. Where she basically meets like a 1960s like Japanese movie character. Oh yes.
I was slightly worried tonight that Chris was going to dress up as that. I was like is he going to be sure because I think I'm going to be warned. It's like the hilarious part is as well like he's obviously like the classic like evil not evil but like harsh master. And then they bring in like the wire work immediately like four of us like it's probably like oh this guy has special powers because he's from like a different movie basically.
It's like on the nose but again it's like a really good inspirational thing. It really is but it's also it shows you her training. So when you get into the fight with Elle Driver and then to all literally mirror on each other because they're being trained by the same person. I look move is such a brilliant move Lord.
How that sequence play out like to where she's you get the flashback so you see the train and you see what she's going through to then realize all actually Elle was actually trained by the same person and then that fight same between them to the fact that they literally do exactly to see a move on each other until she gets the upper hand and taxariah. Taxariah I don't know the name. It really works. I don't know the time.
Yeah but I want to be my killer. Right. Maybe that's maybe the snake that was left in the trailer might have had a good quarter. That's the thing it's leaving it to the imagination.
Like did she survive? Did you know it's like leaving you like not knowing. She died. She died.
No I loved that though because it's like it's like it's a proper like you know martial arts nerd thing to do to be like okay I'm going to put a specific move in the first volume and then in the second one we're going to show why that move is important and then we're going to bring it back. I also I love I love the fact that but you know him in the relationship between but in Bell that it's a solid secret. I know it's so stupid and it's only like it's not even like a long thing but when you realize he never give up his hatary hands also it was always still there. I was like oh brothers.
But there's one bit there's one bit that really knocks my husband and the proper ought to be on the day when we were watching Superman. So any nerds that's not from the North or from the UK. Nox means annoyed. I'm sorry.
Get in now. Get in now. Sometimes and who's around. Yeah.
It really annoyed me. It was brought to be the day when watching Superman because the end of it with Bill and her is just absolutely fantastic like it is a pure revenge movie, end of all endings. But the conversation that the Havenbury says about Superman and always hit it absolutely hit it and the minute we watch the new Superman, you went and Bill could fuck right off. He was wrong.
So interesting, which move would you use if you would trend with these martial art styles? I think you wish. Yes, absolutely. Why did she never pull that one out?
I mean, when she did pull it out, that was just absolutely perfect. So, so late, can you clip Sammy saying, she pulled it out just in? I'm sorry, I just want to say thank you to the last person who commented. Thank you.
Sammy loves the compliments, bless her. You know, the conversations have been absolutely brilliant. Like, I'm not saying that the person earlier was wrong in the slightest. It's just, it threw us because I didn't, you know, I have a disclaimer for a reason and I stick by it.
And I was like, oh, but I was like, yeah, I don't want to talk about it. We haven't mentioned it, but like, he is like a pretty divisive figure and he has like fallen sort of down in people's estimations because like it used to be like no, it's royalty basically. Yeah. And now it's kind of a bit more of a shady thing.
Yeah. It gets rolled up in a lot of like online sort of, like, you know, everyone watching everyone's every move and everything that ever said and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, I love, I do genuinely love his movies, but I always had a bad taste in my mouth after I found out the treatment of Umanverment in Killville, especially volume two and the car sequence, the car, yeah, the car crash, they have kissed and made up and but yeah, that did leave a really bad taste in my mouth. I think of course, with everyone just in life really, like, say people make mistakes, people do things that probably regret.
And again, you see a lot with movie makers, don't you like like you books the same where it's like, you like the goal like so hard because like this is my dream to make this thing and it has to be this way, you know, like the way I see it and I'm going to like bulldoze through everyone else just to get this shot and stuff. Like, so it's one of the horrible things where the movie doesn't get made without that drive in the same way, but then it's like, you know, could you have a good enough movie if you weren't like going crazy with your actors? I didn't even realise like the Tarantino movies were like an absolute like an issue for some people because I come from a world of watching horror movies. So for me, horror, you know, gore and kills, it was just comes hand in hand with what I'm watching.
So when I, you know, do I have, do I have any on pull fiction? That'll get us to take it off. Well, let's go. No one's taking that film.
What? No one's taking it. Oh, not it. No, it's not.
I only ever watched it in its entirety for the first time ever, only a few years ago because every time I have tried to watch it, I fall asleep during it. Yeah. It won't be a chess when I was like a teen, but just because everyone always talked about it, it wasn't like, it was never like my movie because I think it gets a bit too much of like the drug side of things. And it's never like an area where I'm like super interested in.
It's interesting. The way it's shot is super interesting. I do love like the characters, the build up. The some scenes that go on a bit too long, I'm not really interested.
Like, you know, the sort of murder cleanup guy, like the kind of like, well, what was in the suitcase? Who cares? No. It's me.
I might be a little bit salty about kill bill because someone in the Facebook group, the other day said I wasn't intelligent enough to grasp kill bill. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. So I said you weren't intelligent enough to grasp a poll fiction. Yeah.
It's one of those things. I know the idea behind it is like, it's almost like a whole idea of pulp fiction. It's a very much a time. It's loads of little stories within a bigger story, all mashing up.
So it's kind of going to think, but the biggest story to me, there is not one. It's a lot of different segments of amazing, amazing bits of dialogue, amazing interactions, amazing performances, but doing that to a non film or a non story. And to me, it doesn't feel like it went anywhere from start to finish. It's great soundtrack.
One of the best soundtracks I've ever heard. Some of the best performance John Travolta was on fire Samuel Jackson, the whole ZE your speeches and bring fire down you is one of just getting goosebumps. The Bruce Willis bit, it's like the Marcel Wallace bit and getting bummed in the basement is just like, I don't need really need that. It's it seems to be like again, this might be a common thing for Tarantino.
A lot, a lot of violence, a lot of bad language. Again, I'm not saying I'm approved. I've sworn a lot, but a lot of it unnecessarily used in this movie just for shopping. That's what it felt like a shopping or film.
It's like, oh, when I throw all these things, you're going to be sitting there going, but people describe it as genius people. That's great. That's for you. For to me, I don't get it.
Oh, you know what? That would answer that comment earlier. Perfectly. I've heard someone talk about pull fiction.
They talk about the moments like, oh, did you remember the gypsy? Can you remember when you got the adrenaline in the heart and stuff like that? It's hard. You don't talk about the story.
You talk about the bits. Yeah. It's just, like I say, I always use I just always use false. I think I used to get to the adrenaline bit, the heart adrenaline.
That's it. I am out. It's very monologue heavy as well. Like there's a lot of just characters speaking to the camera all those.
And I think I think like you're right, Paul. I think sometimes because Reservoir Dogs is another good example where Tarantino's character in the movie is just saying some like proper like out of like pocket stuff. Where it's like, you know, this is the kind of thing where you tell your mate to be like, oh, shut up, man. You bring him down to see it.
Have lunch. Yeah. Yeah. It's sometimes he wants to say that stuff because he clearly finds it funny and he's a bit like, you had like that.
And this doesn't play it to everyone. Sometimes heavy dialogue works, but it depends on how you as the viewer are kind of gripped into it and unfortunately in full fiction and another one. I'm not. I'm not gripped into it.