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EPISODE · Jun 2, 2025 · 31 MIN

Board vs. Executive: Who Really Leads During Transition?

from The Nonprofit Show · host Jeffrey Wilcox and Anne Wilson | Interim Execs Academy

Send us Fan MailWhen a nonprofit reaches a pivotal moment of transition, the question arises: who will guide it through the unknown? Jeffrey Wilcox, President of Interim Executives Academy, and Anne Wilson, Peer Advisor and Faculty Member, share the wisdom earned from years of navigating the space between permanent leadership.Jeffrey opens with a profound reminder: "The mission is the navigation piece. Our partnership delivers on that mission." His emphasis on 1) clarity, 2) culture, and 3)character forms the backbone of what makes the interim-board relationship not just functional—but transformative.Anne brings lived experience as both an interim and a mentor. "There’s a liberation in being an interim,” she says. “It’s not forever—and that gives you the freedom to recalibrate an organization with truth and transparency.” Her belief in candid communication, mutual accountability, and role integrity sets the stage for a purposeful engagement.The conversation turns toward common missteps—particularly the temptation for boards to see interims as tryouts. Both guests agree: this misses the opportunity to evolve, a word they purposefully use instead of “change.” Jeffrey explains, “Organizations that feel like they need to change create a different culture than those excited to evolve.”They also dive into the relationship between the interim executive and the board chair, revealing that this duo can either ignite or impair progress. Jeffrey argues that "a board chair must steward content, culture, and character" and if that role is undefined or misaligned, the interim shouldn’t accept the post. Anne reinforces the necessity for weekly check-ins, early engagement, and shared urgency.Both guests stress the unique modeling opportunity an interim provides—not just in delivering outcomes, but in demonstrating behaviors: listening deeply, planning incrementally, and celebrating progress. “We want data. We want truth. We want to speak with authenticity,” Jeffrey says, urging boards to shed fear and welcome honesty.Whether you're a seasoned board member, an interim executive, or a curious observer of nonprofit leadership, this elevating conversation offers a roadmap to rebuild, recalibrate, and evolve. It doesn’t just make the case for interim leadership—it makes the process feel both practical and full of possibility.Find us Live daily on YouTube!Find us  Live daily on LinkedIn!Find us Live daily on X: @Nonprofit_ShowOur national co-hosts and amazing guests discuss management, money and missions of nonprofits!  12:30pm ET   11:30am CT  10:30am MT  9:30am PTSend us your ideas for Show Guests or Topics: [email protected] us on the web:The Nonprofit Show

Send us Fan Mail When a nonprofit reaches a pivotal moment of transition, the question arises: who will guide it through the unknown? Jeffrey Wilcox, President of Interim Executives Academy, and Anne Wilson, Peer Advisor and Faculty Member, share the wisdom earned from years of navigating the space between permanent leadership. Jeffrey opens with a profound reminder: "The mission is the navigation piece. Our partnership delivers on that mission." His emphasis on 1) clarity, 2) culture, and 3)...

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