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EPISODE · Apr 20, 2026 · 1H 38M

Bob Burns: The Swan, The Wall, and Talking to the Unconscious

from AWAKEN with Ryan DeJonghe · host Ryan DeJonghe, Founder of TranceWell.help

In this episode of AWAKEN with Ryan DeJonghe, Ryan is joined by the legendary Bob Burns, a master hypnotist from Montrose, Scotland, and the creator of the world-renowned Swan protocol. Bob shares the fascinating history of how The Swan—a unique ideomotor procedure that allows for direct communication with the unconscious mind—evolved from his early days in stage magic and mentalism to become a staple in modern clinical hypnosis.The conversation dives deep into Bob’s "no-nonsense" clinical approach, including his famous The Wall protocol for smoking cessation and his philosophy on the "Swan-Take". Bob discusses the importance of bypassing the analytical mind and why he believes the unconscious is not just a storage unit, but a protective, intelligent entity that can be bartered with to achieve rapid, life-changing results.Whether discussing his experiences in the "old days" of hypnosis or demonstrating the elegant simplicity of the Swan, Bob provides an masterclass in rapport, clinical intent, and the art of working with the part of the mind that truly holds the keys to change.Key Takeaways & Meaningful Quotes"The Swan isn't an induction; it's a way of talking to the part of the mind that doesn't usually get a seat at the table. Once that hand starts to move, the analytical mind has to sit back and watch the truth come out.""I don't care about the 'why' of the problem. I want to know if the part of the mind that is running that problem is willing to do something else instead. If we can get a 'yes' from the unconscious, the work is already half-done.""Clinical hypnosis should be a conversation, not a lecture. When you use The Swan, you aren't telling the client what to do; you're helping the client discover what their own mind is finally ready to let go of."How to Connect and Work with UsConnect with Bob Burns: Explore Bob's training, clinical protocols, and his extensive video library to learn The Swan and other high-level hypnotic tools directly from the source.YouTube: youtube.com/@BobBurnsHypnotistWebsite: lifelinehypnotherapy.comWork with Ryan DeJonghe: Ready to explore your own transformation through hypnosis?Website: trancewell.helpEmail: [email protected]

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In this episode of AWAKEN with Ryan DeJonghe, Ryan is joined by the legendary Bob Burns, a master hypnotist from Montrose, Scotland, and the creator of the world-renowned Swan protocol. Bob shares the fascinating history of how The Swan—a unique ideomotor procedure that allows for direct communication with the unconscious mind—evolved from his early days in stage magic and mentalism to become a staple in modern clinical hypnosis. The conversation dives deep into Bob’s "no-nonsense" clinical a...

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