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EPISODE · Jul 8, 2025 · 13 MIN

Bolt Says They Killed HR, But the Work Doesn’t Go Away

from “HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies · host HR Heretics

Kelli and Nolan critically examine Bolt CEO and Founder Ryan Breslow's announcement that they eliminated their HR department in favor of "People Ops", questioning whether this rebranding actually improves efficiency or just represents clickbait without meaningful organizational change. They explore the tension between removing perceived bureaucratic middlemen and maintaining necessary workplace oversight.*Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] coaching and advising inquire at https://kellidragovich.com/HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine.Support HR Heretics Sponsors:Planful empowers teams just like yours to unlock the secrets of successful workforce planning. Use data-driven insights to develop accurate forecasts, close hiring gaps, and adjust talent acquisition plans collaboratively based on costs today and into the future. ✍️ Go to https://planful.com/heretics to see how you can transform your HR strategy.Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. Metaview completely removes the need for recruiters and hiring managers to take notes during interviews—because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. Team builders at companies like Brex, Hellofresh, and Quora say Metaview has changed the game—see the magic for yourself: https://www.metaview.ai/hereticsKEEP UP WITH NOLAN + KELLI ON LINKEDINNolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/—Related Links:Ryan Breslow’s LinkedIn Post:https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ryanbreslow_bolt-has-eliminated-its-hr-department-activity-7340377688517365761-0TcL/—TIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Intro(00:13) Bolt's HR "Elimination" Announcement(01:11) You Gotta Understand the Source First(02:43) Way to Say Something Without Really Saying Anything(03:24) Discussion: Good HR vs. Bad HR and Over-Planning(04:37) Why HR Gets Targeted: Speed and Headcount Issues(05:36) Who is People Ops Really?(06:21) Sponsors: Planful | Metaview(09:21) Who is People Ops Really? (continued)(10:07) Business Risk and Future of HR Functions(11:01) The Shift Has Already Been Happening(11:58) The Work Doesn't Go Away(12:22) Future of Work: AI Coaching and Managing Agents(13:21) Wrap This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit hrheretics.substack.com

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