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Special Guest John joins Adam to discuss tech news and breakdown their Top 5 Movies (in preparation for Lew’s Movie List). John also really likes _The Room_, enough for it to earn a top spot on his list. Why?! [Part 1 of 2]

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First, let's go through just kind of the news of the week because, you know, there's always something going on. It's always fun to kind of talk about with a fresh perspective. So, John, I don't know if you've followed Bitcoin at all, but the price this last week has kind of been a roller coaster where it was riding high for a really long time, you know, just tick, tick, tick, going up and up and up. And then kind of overnight it lost about half of its value.

And then the next day it rebounded, you know, by a couple thousand dollars. It's just been kind of up and down, up and down. So I don't know if you've been following this at all or if you have any thoughts. Yeah.

So ironically, I've been like I've been really on the fence about, like, cryptocurrency as a whole. And literally today I bought my first little bit of Bitcoin and Ethereum. And I figured I'd put just a little in there and just let it sit. And I think I'm doing it more out of like curiosity than anything.

But I know what was interesting in that link that you have there, which I'm assuming you guys will put in the show notes. It's interesting because I believe the reason why it's kind of riding this roller coaster is along the lines of the thought of regulating it. Is that correct? Yeah.

So the reason it took the big dip was because South Korea basically said that they would put a ban on cryptocurrency unless there was a way to identify or tie a wallet to an actual individual, like be able to make that correlation. And the whole point of cryptocurrency was to be anonymous. Right. Or the whole point of the blockchain.

Right. was with this ledger, you could be anonymous because everything could be encrypted. So when they basically said like, hey, you know, we're going to ban the use of cryptocurrency unless we can tie wallets to people, I believe was the reason. Because of that, we're like, well, if countries are gonna start, you know, like just banning cryptocurrency, then we don't have a lot of faith in this thing.

And everyone started jumping ship. And that's why, you know, the value tanked. But then the next day, right, like, go figure, the next day is like, well, you know, like, we'll reevaluate it. We'll look at it.

You know, like everyone kind of flip flops back and forth on, you know, the issue. And lo and behold, you know, you jump up a couple thousand dollars and then the next day, you know, goes up a couple more thousand. Next day, it goes down a couple thousand. So I think, like you said, because everyone's trying to figure out, like, it's so new and we have such established, you know, systems and things that have just been in place forever that something new is scary.

And no one wants to be, I guess no one wants to miss out on anything, right? They don't want to miss out on a chance to either tax or, you know, they don't want to miss out on some regulation that would, you know, come back to bite them later. So I can understand the hesitation. But yeah, definitely since this currency is, I don't want to say in its infancy, right, but it's still kind of in those growing pain awkward teenage years.

It's gonna have these ups and downs. And I believe, and I follow news pretty well, there's been a lot of thought and I say thought because I don't have facts, but not that it flies a kid, but it has like all these gears inside of it. So, yeah, I'm kind of intrigued to see what they do with it. I think a lot of people will be happy that as you pointed out in the show notes, it eliminates some waste of cardboard.

So put all that cardboard to use. But, you know, I think when we look at gaming as a whole now, especially with the younger generation, like, you know, they're not, they're viewing games in a different way. And I think a lot of companies are trying to find new and creative ways to like actually get kids excited to like game. But I think we're also getting into that world where, you know, games have to be educational to some degree.

I recently read an article that they had declared like addictive video games as like a mental, like a disability of some sort, where it's like a, like a disease. So I think, I think it's just society as a whole trying to tackle it. And Nintendo has always been on the forefront of, you know, kids and their development and like parental controls. And I think this just kind of bends into that area.

But as I'm sure you also saw Adam, did you see a lot of the memes that hit the Internet about Nintendo Labo? You know, I actually didn't look at the, at the meme side of things yet. I've been behind on my Twitter game lately, but I'll put some in the show notes here in a little bit, but there's some pretty good ones of people cutting out like outfits for like their dogs and they have like dogs with like a whole like wingspan on it. Or there's some other ones with other animals involved, but it was pretty good.

But I'm curious of your thoughts. So I think it's a great idea because Nintendo, like people have said, people point out like Nintendo is a toy company, right? Like they make hardware and they have IP right with, you know, their games, but they're in it to make toys. I mean, they, they made these Amiibos, right?

That were these just little action figures with a little NFC chip in them. And they sold those for tons of money and people went crazy. Crazy for them and added just a little bit of interactivity, you know, with a, with a game console. And I think it's like you said, a lot of people are being more conscious about, Hey, like, do we want to just have someone sit in front of a screen all day or do we want to have them try to maybe also learn something or learn how something works, right?

I mean, you saw this with Minecraft, right? Minecraft took off with kids because it was just simple building blocks, right? But the fact of building something, like you'd get into, like, hey, these are what loops are, and this is how a loop can be demonstrated. And my kids have definitely gone to like a coding classes where they've used like Minecraft for Education in a lot of those scenarios.

So I think Nintendo getting into this is smart, A, because it's not super expensive, right? It starts at $70. And you think, oh, $70 for cardboard, that's a lot. It's like, okay, we'll have $70 for the cardboard for the game for the whole thing.

And then if your kid, you know, uses it for, let's say, two months, you know, then you can just toss it, right? Or it's made out of cardboard. Like, they're making a bunch of money off these things and they're not gonna, you know, take up a bunch of waste. And if, if, you know, kids, like kids are, you know, all on board with something and then two weeks later, they're totally, you know, out of it, I guess.

Old news. Like I don't want to play with this anymore. So I think it's smart because it gets the kind of creative juices flowing and, like you said, for, for those kids who are really inquisitive and want to see how something like that would work or like how would me putting this cardboard thing together, how would it read, you know, like the piano keys when I'm pressing this key, how does it know? And it's like, oh, and you know, it actually shows you this is how we know that you're pressing this key.

So try pressing it and, you know, we'll see if we have this set up correctly. And I think that's really cool because it just kind of puts kids towards more of a, an engineering type, you know, thinking. And in this day and age, right, the more we can get them to learn that computers are going to be the way of the future, and a lot of jobs are going to be programming computers or programming robots or what have you, it's just going to set a bunch of kids up towards being interested in, in a popular field or a field that will be growing. So they'll be able to kind of keep pushing the limits of, of what these things can do.

Yeah. That'll be interesting to see here how, how it does once it hits market. And I think it, when does it become available? Is it like end of February?

April 20th. So April 20th. So I'll probably, I want to say I get the piano one, but I don't know. I kind of like the motorcycle one.

Like that one seems interesting to me. That one I feel like we would definitely more use. I, you have a Nintendo switch. I know I, I do as well.

Um, so I might, I might have to pick one up myself and see how it is because I, I, I like building stuff. It's probably as long as it has instructions, I'm good. You mentioned, again, these are all on the switch too. So it's like, like there's zero waste, right?

Like you get this thing and the only thing you have to throw away is the packaging. And the packaging was probably made of cardboard anyway. And it's cardboard. So like whatever, recycle that stuff.

Uh, but it's funny, you kind of mentioned Legos too, right? And yeah, this is kind of like building blocks. You get something with instructions that you put together and there's a lot of, you know, fun just even in the setup of that. And then there's the feeling of accomplishment when you, you know, finish it and it actually works, right?

Even that alone is almost worth $50 in my book, right? Just that, to follow through with something and have that sense of accomplishment is, is great for kids. So cool. Yep.

We'll report back when, uh, when you and I have our, our labos, how do you even know how it's supposed to be pronounced? Because I didn't watch the actual video. Oh yeah. And I, I just got glimpses of it.

And at the end it didn't say it, but as a labo, I'm assuming it's labo, like a laboratory, but maybe, maybe we're pronouncing it wrong. Maybe it's labo. Yeah, right. Listen, I'm gonna have to watch the trailer just so I can hear actually how it's, how it's pronounced.

Now I got to go through like the pre-roll of them cutting out stuff. And I'm like, I just want to hear them talk about it. I mean, uh, one last thought on this. I mean, you think of like all the other stuff they could, like, depending on how well it does, like how often it would be to like build your own, like, you know, Hyruian sword out of cardboard.

And then, you know, in some way it could using a Joy-Con, like know which direction you're doing slashes and you can make a cool mini game out of that. I mean, there's so many possibilities. Link's crossbow training 2.0. Yeah, exactly.

The long lost forgotten title. Link's crossbow training. I, I saw that at like a GameStop. It was like $4.99 or something like that.

I was like, I was very tempted to pick it up. So I was like, please just take it. Like, I'll pay you $4.99 to take it. Just please get it out of here.

Oh man. Twilight princess. That's a good game. Uh, well, um, I know I added some links in here.

Um, so on a couple of podcasts ago, you ironically got me really hyped up about Amazon. Um, now this is a conversation I've had uh quite some time with Lou. I've been on the fence about like really going with Amazon or not. And some of it is like practices of Amazon, but at the same time, like, let's not pretend like that Amazon is kind of like dominating and that's hence why retail is struggling a little bit.

Um, so not to say you and Lou, Lou got me into this, but I actually uh got an Amazon credit card and uh... That credit card's the best, man. Oh, it is the best. I've already put it to use and that brings me to my conversation.

I had actually just decided with the first uh purchase just to subscribe to Amazon Prime for the $99 for the year. Um, but uh Amazon actually had a monthly version of their subscription service and they raised it just a couple of days ago about by 20%. So it went from $10.99 a month to now $12.99 a month. Um, and uh I was just curious, I believe, uh, on, on your thoughts on what that increase might be for, or uh, um, I know in the article that we've attached to the show notes, uh, they talk a lot about the incentive of monthly versus just uh upfront subscription.

Yeah. So Amazon's saying, right, they, they want to sell Prime in the most ways that they can, but it has to be worth it for them. Now, if someone buys a year of Prime, you can pretty much say that, you know, no matter what, since they're paying per month on this Prime, they're, they're going to get the benefit of it or they're more likely to continue it after that year is up, right? And when you have something per month, right, it's easy to turn on and off.

So I think what I would assume Amazon would see is like, oh, okay, well everyone turns on Prime, you know, right before Christmas and then everyone turns off Prime, you know, at the beginning of the year. So because, you know, that's not as lucrative to us or, you know, there are still a bunch of costs that we incur. And if they only subscribe on the busiest months of the year that we can't offset, you know, those, those prices or those profits with, you know, the, the off season, then let's just raise the price of the monthly rate, but people will still get, you know, their usual yearly rate. And I don't know how long, if you've been a Prime subscriber for long, but they've pretty gone through like a couple rate increases, you know, even for the yearly, yearly mark.

And it never really turned me off because honestly, the convenience I get from Prime is, you know, I see that every time I make an Amazon order, most of the time I should say, not every time, but most of the time I make an Amazon order, it just turns a sheer convenience and uh and price. But I think them increasing the prices just for monthly is like, okay, well I'm not a monthly subscriber, so it doesn't really affect me. And I can see why they would do it because It's more incentive for people to give them more money upfront, you know, for Prime for the year and kind of get people away from just, you know, turning it on when they need to and then turning it off. And you know, just only signing up for things when they want to.

And I don't wanna say getting away from that, but just making sure that they're still making the money that they need to from that. And Amazon already makes they're a big company, and just the fact that they're saying like, hey, we want to do this, and not just like privately going to these other places and saying like, hey, we'd like to, you know, put our second headquarters here. They're like publicly saying like, hey, we're, you know, looking for a new headquarters. Like, who wants to host us?

And like, everyone's like, oh my gosh, like, come here, come here, you know, come hang out with us. So yeah, it looks like LA is the only one west of the Rockies, is what they said. So yeah, I'm looking at the map and there's this little lonely dot in California. I mean, like, we've already got a lot of, you know, like big companies out here, so.

I also see the dot, like, in, like, Massachusetts, and I think of, like, just how much snow came down there and, like, how, like, your packages wouldn't be able to get delivered because they're just snowed in. Well, this is headquarters, right? So I mean, like, did they say that they're going to be doing, like, warehousing out of this, or is it going to be more like their operations, you know? I think it was a mix of a little bit of both.

I mean, because, like, headquarters, I know they're building the one still in Seattle, those big, like, domes that are, like, see-through or whatever. But I guess we'll get more information as they come through. But anyways, we'll push forward. So I saw the, you know, I'm a big SpaceX enthusiast, and the Falcon Heavy was going to be test firing their rocket, the three Merlin rockets, out on the launch pad.

However, the U.S. Air Force was also launching another rocket as of yesterday, and SpaceX had to hold off because they detected some irregularities in the process of doing that static test fire. And the U.S. Air Force was like, please don't proceed because we don't want you to accidentally blow up our rocket, which was literally, like, to the right of it.

I was hoping tonight that they were going to be able to launch it as our listeners listen, but tomorrow, which will be Monday the 21st, they did get the go-ahead to launch that. But have you paid any attention to the Falcon Heavy, Adam? You know, I haven't followed SpaceX that much. When they first had it, you know, the whole program, I was really interested.

And now I only look at the successful launches. So whenever I see something in the news that they postponed a launch, you know, the launch was scheduled for this time. I was like, I just want to watch the video of the actual launch, the successful launch, or a compilation of all the fails, like I've mentioned in shows before. Like, I'd rather watch that.

I mean, it's really cool what they're doing, right? Like, in terms of reusing rockets and, you know, privatizing, you know, this whole market of, you know, putting stuff into space. But for me, it just, it doesn't pique my interest as much, and mainly because there's just so much stuff going on in my life, right, that this is definitely on the back burner. I mean, if you want to call it that.

But I'd love to see one of these things take off because I hear it's a sight to behold. And I'm just looking at these rockets. It's pretty amazing what's happening. But as usual, Tesla has to slip a deadline and nothing new there.

Yeah. I think, if anything, it'll be interesting just because this will be the most powerful rocket ever shot into space. And Elon's goal is that this rocket would essentially someday get out to Mars. But essentially, you've got three huge rockets, like, strapped together.

It just reminds me of something, like, from Toy Story where... I was gonna say Toy Story, yep. Yeah, where Woody and Buzz have the rocket attached to them. But yeah, so I love space.

I love kind of, like, what they do. And I think that's maybe because I'm a little closer to them down here. And so I hear a lot about it. But we'll maybe in a future one see how that goes.

For sure. Yeah, other than that, I mean, that kind of wraps up some of the news from this week. So we do have a little bit of follow-up that I kind of want to touch on just before we get into the movie list, the long-awaited movie list. So, John, it looks like you have a couple thoughts on DRM.

And so take it away. Yeah, in the last podcast, I know you and Lou had been talking about DRM. I can say I kind of on the fence of it. I kind of, like, always thought that, like, someone, especially from someone who had so many DVDs or Blu-rays, that, like, eventually I want to have, like, a digital copy since everything is so, you know, finite.

You know, kids snap to your Blu-ray and, you know, I don't want to go out and buy another one. But I know you and Lou had some conversation about other ways that people obtain this stuff. And, you know, when I was younger, growing up, I didn't really have a way of obtaining certain means of watching movies. So I found ways to do that.

But my comment was really just like, I really have this sense of urgency to just pay and buy everything. So, you know, if I can afford it, then I'm gonna give patronage to the people who made it. Although there are, you know, every now and again things that are still, you know, physical copy that you can't find digitally. So there's always a struggle still there.

But I thought you guys did a good breakdown on the DRM. But, you know, things are changing now. And now you have a lot easier access to things, being that the internet exists. And whether that's renting or, you know, purchasing movies like myself through whether that's iTunes or Google Play Store or whatever.

I think the concept of DRM, even though it seems like it's increasing, I feel like it's also not becoming as much of a, like an issue. But, yep, that's it. That's all I got on that. But I will say that, you know, digital rights and media is something that's important.

And, you know, if an artist has it on there for a reason, then I feel like, to a degree, people gotta respect it as long as it's within the means of not sharing it. Yeah. Like, you know, that was the whole, you know, like takeaway for us, too, is DRM has to exist in some way, shape, or form. It's just what shape that kind of takes, that's the important part.

And everyone wants to protect their stuff, right? Like, we wanna protect our privacy just as much as, like, an artist wants to protect their, you know, their creation and they wanna get paid or recognized when, you know, someone is buying that or using that. So, like, as long as there's a way to do it without inhibiting too much on, like, a person's freedom to consume that content, great. You know, so.

I'm also curious your comments on Lou not understanding Fifty Shades of Grey jokes, which, I mean, no surprise because we are doing a show about Lou's lack of pop culture knowledge. But what did you wanna add on that? Uh, yeah, just for myself, when I was listening to the podcast and you tried to throw a quick one at him, and it was a joke about Fifty Shades of Grey. He totally just was lost, and I'm sitting laughing in my car at the joke.

And, you know, to no surprise, like, I wasn't surprised that Lou didn't understand it. But, you know, my hope every day is that I can just influence Lou a little more in his pop culture when it comes to movies, movie references. Um, so, yeah. Other than that, uh, it felt good being, like, I was there when you were telling the joke, but I wasn't.

What's the movie where the guy wakes up from, like, something? Oh no, it's in The Avengers, right? So Captain America gets thawed out. And I think Nick Fury makes a comment.

And then Captain America, like, quickly pauses, like, I get that reference. Because Thor doesn't understand the reference because he's not from Earth, you know? Right, right. But Captain America's all excited because he got the reference.

Like, that's what I picture, like, that's what I want to see, like, Lou, you know, have that realization one time where someone says something, I understand that reference. Yep, yep. Cool, so we'll talk more about that in a little bit here. So my thing I put this in here is, like, Lou talked about his shorts last time.

Now he had, like, a horrible time buying, you know, these Lululemon, or however you wanna say, you know, these shorts. And I looked at the shorts because I was like, all right, well, let's take a look at these shorts. And they're $58 goddamn dollars each. So I'm sitting here, and I'm like, okay, well, let's look at some of the other stuff.

I'm like, yeah, everything's expensive. But I'm like, these are shorts, man. Like, shorts are half of pants. So I figure, like, if the price is gonna be half of what the pants are, like, not really.

No, that's not how it works. So I'm just sitting here, like, why? Why are your shorts $58? And why is Lou Jack Nicholson is pretty crazy as like a mob boss, so it's a really good crime drama and I love watching that movie and it's kind of one of the ones where I will turn it on and I don't want to like fall asleep or I don't want to like pause it.

I just kind of wanna watch it all the way through. Yeah, this movie, The Departed, definitely left like just this really great essence of like filmmaking with me, and to this day, it keeps you on the edge of your seat the whole time still, and like you just like, there's so much character investment that like by the time the movie wraps up, like you're just like, clap, clap, clap, because it was just so good. Yeah, and they kind of tie up everything in the end too, so there's no loose ends. Yeah, it's really good.

Well, my second movie here is, and I'm pretty sure you appreciate this movie as well, Inception. And Inception, you know, Christopher Nolan's really groundbreaking movie, which was a bit of a separation, I believe, after he was it after he did the Dark Knight? I believe it was because I remember people were like, There's no way he could do a movie that was even close to the Dark Knight, but Inception was like really unique, really great sound by Hans Zimmer. And you know, also another Leonardo movie there.

But Inception is definitely one of those movies where I at least have to watch it like once a year. Like it's always like a must. I typically try and watch it like around my birthday, just because that movie is so well like shot, like the music with like when they're going through the different levels is like, you're just like, oh man, what's going to happen? Like, and yes, of course, I know what's gonna happen, but like, you never know.

Something could change. Time is relative. Yeah, but do you really know what happens, right? Because even in the end, man, like, it's still kind of, yeah, but it still messes with you, right?

Like if you watch it towards the end, like it wobbles. Yeah, it wobbles. What does the wobble mean? The wobble.

And then it cuts and then you're like, Oh God, but no, I need like two more seconds, just two more seconds of screen time. Just a little bit longer to actually know. But like even just leaving that there, like the concept of this movie, like you mentioned, is multifaceted, right? It's got layers on it and not just, you know, going further and further into the layers of a dream, but just the layers of reality, right?

And how it plays on that. And there were just lots of really cool things. And I mean, we talked about a lot of movies that, that kind of have an existing story, right? Like, and that's what a lot of stuff is based off of, especially now in Hollywood, right?

They're just rehashing old ideas or rehashing books or whatever. And Inception is kind of one of those things where it's like this, I don't believe was based on any book. Nope. Yeah.

It was all unique. Jonathan Nolan, his brother actually wrote the screenplay for it originally. Right. And that right there is like, wow, like that's, that's really cool to come up with this kind of out of nowhere.

And I really loved, you know, the idea and how they executed, you know, going through this kind of, like you say, this whole inception of an idea into someone. And like it comes, you know, brings up questions of free will and all sorts of other things, right? So it's, it's, it's a really cool movie and it's definitely one that I like, I like a lot. So in tying in with, with Inception, right?

I definitely like Christopher Nolan, and I definitely like Batman. Batman's my favorite superhero by far. Say what? Say what?

Yes. No, exactly. There's no question about that. Batman v Superman, Batman all the way.

Like there's, come on. Superman's an idiot. It's true. He almost did kill him, but their mom's names were the same and you know, that just ends all fighting.

Can I just pretend that movie doesn't exist, like. Yes, we both can. Yeah. Right.

Did you ever see the Dark Knight? Um, what is it? Not the Dark Knight Rises. It was the Dark Knight Returns.

Oh yeah. The Dark Knight Returns was amazing. Yeah. Yeah.

So the, the graphic novel was great, right? And then the cartoon that they made was also great because it, you know, was very strictly based off of it. And that just goes to show, like, that whole comic, if they would have played out the plot and like it was supposed to be played out, you know why Batman wins every time. You know why.

Right. Exactly. Everyone, you know, brings that to a thing of like physical strength. And it's not, it's not about that.

That's not everything. That's never what Batman's been about. How is Batman in a Justice League with all these other, you know, superheroes, and he's the one basically leading the charge most of the time. So he's fucking smart.

And all these other guys are fucking stupid. Right. But then in Batman v Superman, he's fucking stupid too. So anyway, um, the second movie I put on there, kind of going with the Christopher Nolan theme is The Dark Knight.

And I know you mentioned like, how can you follow up The Dark Knight with Inception? Well, The Dark Knight, like you said, is, is one of Christopher Nolan. I think it's one of his best films. And I mean, there's a lot to be said of, you know, Heath Ledger's performance, which is amazing as a Joker.

Like that is the Joker to live up to, right? Like everyone praised Jack Nicholson and you know, the Tim Burton Batman, like, Hey, that's a really good Joker, but Heath Ledger took it to a different level, right? Like just really sadistic. But, and, and they play on it like really well too, because like, he'll tell lies.

Like when he, you know, tells the story of like how he got scars, like you'll see like the story's really inconsistent and just, his methods are inconsistent and he says he's an agent of chaos, right? So it all kind of feeds into that, but man, just really good performances and really good action sequences. Like I love the new bat suit and when he goes in, he uh, he recaptures the guy from Hong Kong. Oh yeah.

Yeah, that whole scene with the plane that swoops in and gets him. Yup. Yup. I love that where he's basically, he sets up, you know, the delayed charges and then the other one, my favorite, my favorite scene in this movie, favorite action scene is when, um, I have to say favorite action scene because my favorite scene in the movie is when he's talking to the Joker when they're talking together.

So great. It's like, never start with the head. The victim gets all fuzzy. Yeah.

He's still the next boom. See, well, my favorite action scene is when they're in the tower at the very end of the movie and he has to take out the SWAT team. Oh yeah. Non-lethal.

Take out the SWAT team. And he's going like from level to level, basically just, you know, knocking these guys out and tying all of them together. And then basically they surround him and he just has to pull one move and it's checkmate. And that right there just goes to show that Batman is a better superhero than Superman.

Yeah. Yeah. And uh, I thought it was cool that that was how, um, which they never really did so much, uh, like prior, but like, uh, with like Lucius Fox and like uh you know, being like uh someone who had worked with Bruce's father and like was in charge of like all these like projects and uh with like the technology aspect of it. And I, I, there's something that I like enjoy, like depending, depending on how people feel about Morgan Freeman, but like, I love like just the, the, the play that like between Bruce and him.

And um I think there's like that one line where he's like, Do you have like any sort of like, you know, um like uh some sort of like special soup like good wings fan? And he's like, you know, are you going rappelling or something like that? Um there's, there's just like this uh camaraderie between the two of them, but. Yeah, I love when um I think it's in that movie where he's like, where it's when he gets a new suit and he's like, so you'll be more susceptible against knives than gunfire.

And he's like, how will it do against dogs? It's like you're talking Chihuahuas or Rottweilers or Chihuahuas. And then he kind of looks at me and he's like, should you just fight against cats? And I was like, Oh see, like that right there, like nod to them for, you know, tying into another villain and stuff.

I really liked that movie. It's a great movie. Um all right, I'll continue it here. Some people might feel mixed on this, but to this day um Social Network, um and I say this with the fact that I worked at a movie theater and I had no clue really what the social network was originally.

And I had tons of people coming and um seeing the movie and tons of people leaving and like they were like super like, like, you know, raving about it. And I decided, like, I didn't even know, like, like I used again and like he ends up becoming like his own man, but one of the reasons I really love the movie is there's a lot of this was like one of those movies where they started incorporating a lot of like like 90s, like early 2000s singles in movies that were animated. And there was a good one that was added into it. I'm trying to find the name here real quick.

Do you know which one I'm talking about? Which song you're talking about? No, I just remember him and his stupid skateboard. I'm like, kid, you know, got a better flying surfboard thing.

So in all fairness, I only saw this because of my kids. They basically like we just went on a Disney buying spree where we just bought all these Disney movies. This is one I'd never heard of. And we played it and I was like, huh.

And I watched it. I was like, I've never seen this. I've never even heard of this. Like, what is this?

What's Treasure Planet? I had to look it up. But oh, it's the Goo Goo Dolls. Oh, so and the song is called I'm Still Here.

It's definitely when you listen, if you ever get a chance to listen to it, you're like, yeah, this was made in like the late 90s, early 2000s. There's like, like, you know, there's like that sound like each. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

We take them a little bit to get out of that. Yeah. Yeah. So each area has its own sound, right?

It kind of goes with us with soundtracks, especially, but also with movies, right? Yeah. Another thing is like trailers, man. If you watch trailers from each era, like that's that's mind boggling.

Like you talk about remember when Inception came out, it was all the blah and now every trailer is blah. Yeah. Or you also have like those like upcoming of age movies. And it was always like Blink 182 or like Green Day or something like that.

Yeah, man. Just pop on for the win on those ones, right? Any sum 41 single they could throw on it. Yeah, I think that was later.

But yikes. So the next one I put on here, which it was kind of picking my favorite Star Wars movie, right? Because I love Star Wars and I had to pick a favorite. And in doing this, I chose The Force Awakens.

So episode seven. And the reason that I chose episode seven as kind of my top one of my top five movies is not because of me, but because of the way that my oldest daughter kind of saw the movie and was inspired by that movie. Like just the way that she I took her to the theater to see it and I had already seen it myself. So I took her and it was just me and her.

And I remember there's a moment where Ray grabs a lightsaber, right? Where this, you know, this character has kind of been undeveloped this entire time, like has shown some signs of, you know, having knowledge of the force and things like that. And then when she grabs the lightsaber and the John Williams comes on and it's really low and she powers of the lightsaber. I look at my daughter and she's staring at the screen with her mouth basically hanging open.

I I was just I couldn't be happier. It was just like a really fun moment for me. So this movie will always have like kind of that special place in my heart. So it's definitely my favorite Star Wars by far.

That's awesome. And I think I think Star Wars The Force Awakens kind of like flipped the generation in that. Like, I think in the original, obviously you had like Luke and Leia, but I would say there was probably more of that sensation for like younger boys. Whereas this generation, it was kind of like flipped the other way.

So like a lot of like younger girls saw the, you know, raised character and like just had that that like kind of like feel of like empowerment and like, like, hey, like just because, you know, you, you know, didn't have this one thing that these other people had in the in the movie, like, doesn't mean you're not special or like that you couldn't amount to something. I thought it was a unique taste on it. And honestly, Disney Disney's done a good job for the most part with continuing the Star Wars series and like, it's, it's a struggle for me because there's a part of me that likes old Star Wars, but like, I also get like, like the Star Wars now is like being aimed at a whole other generation of like kids and like, like to be profitable and also like to push past like, like telling and rehashing the same story. Like they have to change some of that stuff.

Um, but I, I, to this day, I think The Force Awakens was, was a great movie. And it's kind of funny too, because they, they rehashed like essentially the same idea. There's so many aspects of The Force Awakens that are like direct parallels to episode four, right? The trench run, right?

The giant death death Star type thing, you know, like one person having knowledge of the force and, you know, some dark figure, you know, that's, has a mask on, right? There's that whole thing. And then the killing of, you know, like an older character, like there's, there's so much of that just kind of runs parallel. But like you said, it's for a new generation.

And once you kind of, you know, if you watch The Last Jedi and you kind of take that into consideration, you, you kind of realize that, yeah, this is all part of that, that overlying narrative, right? Like this is all something that they're trying to get across in this universe, which is, which is really cool. But like I said, for me, like I'll, I'll always love episode four as like my Star Wars. But once you have kids, you kind of realize that like, Hey, you know what?

Like I get a lot more like enjoyments out of, you know, seeing their reaction to things. And I think living through that, like, that's why this one has to go on the top of my list. But, uh, I'll finish it off here then with, um, so have you ever seen the room? Uh, so the, the, the most that I've seen of the room is all of the horrible cuts that you'll get on, on YouTube, right?

Where it's like all the best scenes in the room or all the worst scenes in the room or whatever you want. And so I feel like I've heard enough about the room for people who have watched it and I've watched enough of the scenes to where I get the idea of it. Yeah. Another thing I still have to sit down and watch it, but I'm so curious how this makes your top five.

Like, so, so truthfully it makes, it makes my top five because like, if you ever are with good company, good friends, you like, you know, maybe have a couple beers or something. Like the room is like the, the, the best movie to watch amongst like friends. And like, like there's no doubt in my mind that you won't just have a good time. Like I could sit down with friends and watch the social network, but I can guarantee you it's not going to be the same experience as watching the room.

Um, I'm sure everyone's probably heard recently, uh, The Disaster Artist, which was kind of like a retelling of the making of the room. Um, The Room is considered the best worst movie ever. Um, and I'm sure like you, Adam, many people have seen like the best and worst of it. Um, I would challenge you to just watch, find a copy and watch the movie all the way through.

And uh I think you might understand why it made my top five. But um uh you know, if you, if you ever like, hey, you know, what could I do with friends and family and like have a good time? Just pop, pop a couple beers and, and throw this movie in and I guarantee you'll be uh be all laughing and having a good old time. Yeah.

I mean, it just looks painful, man. Like it's like the cringe-worthy laugh, right? Where you just go, and the whole movie is like that. And I was like, all right, watching the worst, you know, scenes, like I get, but then it's like, wait a minute, there's an hour and a half of this.

I have to watch the whole thing. No, I was good with the five minute cuts. Like I don't need to watch any more. Uh, um, have you seen the songify The Room?

No, I actually haven't. Oh my gosh. I just put the link in the show notes, so we need to pause for, you know, three minutes while you go watch this. Okay.

Oh hi, Mark. Oh man, the chi-chi-chi. It's going to be stuck in your head. And now you get to share with everyone, which is great.

Oh man, I can't, I gotta show this uh to, to some of the people. Oh, that's so good. The best part about it, uh, like the movie was like so badly dubbed like over, like, oh man, it's just a, it is, it's just terrible. It's so good.

But that right there, like, we definitely played that on uh, in our house multiple times. Oh yeah. Yeah. Because it's stupid.

It's really stupidly catchy and knowing what you know about the room just makes it that much more fun. Right, right, right. So, all right, rounding out the top five, like, I don't

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