Bonus: Dame Jacinda Ardern on unexpectedly becoming a world leader

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Dame Jacinda Ardern reflects on how she became Prime Minister of New Zealand in unexpected circumstances, the challenges of governing through COVID, and the importance of dignity within the welfare system.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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