Bonus Episode #20 - Saul is joined in conversation by Stonelands Gardener Brian Langley - having only recently retired after 45 years gardening for the National Trust we talk about Brian's love for the natural world, schools education and gardening.

From time to time Lucy and Saul decided they wanted to record conversations with other Head Gardeners, Curators, Garden Owners and fellow horticulturists across the UK, these will be published as Bonus Episodes alongside their usual format of chatting about their gardening lives. We hope you enjoy.For the Bonus Episode #20 we are joined by Stonelands Gardener Brian Langley - who although recently retired, spent 45 years in the National Trust as a gardener firstly at Tatton Park in Cheshire, but for the last 37 years at Antony House in Cornwall. Now in his retirement he shows no sign of slowing down working at Stonelands House part-time, volunteering for numerous charities and biking off to all parts of the UK and the World. A passionate advocate for the natural world and enabling everyone to engage and enjoy it, we chat about his life and work.Twitter links:Saul @GardeningSaulLucy @HeadGardenerLCInstagram links:Lucy headgardenerlcIntro and Outro music from https://filmmusic.io"Fireflies and Stardust" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)Support the show