Bonus episode: A tale of two conventions

Are we a country that's failed disastrously to respond to a global pandemic, or a country that's overrun by protests and violence on the streets? Democrats and Republicans painted wildly different pictures of America at their party conventions this month. For the double conventions, we're featuring a double host special: Nerdcast's Scott Bland joins Dispatch's Jeremy Siegel to discuss the biggest takeaways from the past two weeks.Scott Bland is the host of Nerdcast and a politics editor at POLITICO.Jeremy Siegel is the host of POLITICO's Dispatch podcast.Jenny Ament is senior producer for POLITICO audio.Annie Rees is a producer for POLITICO audio.Irene Noguchi is the executive producer of POLITICO audio.