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EPISODE · Aug 6, 2025 · 28 MIN

BONUS: Mike Jackson Talks Kwame Brathwaite's Photography

from 5AM StoryTalk · host Cole Haddon

MIKE JACKSON — co-founder of Get Lifted Film Co., Emmy-winning producer, and host of the Why Not Me? podcast — returns for a bonus episode to discuss two seminal artworks from his life – Kwame Brathwaite’s photographs of the Jackson 5 and Muhammad Ali, both taken on the coast of Africa in 1974.Check the photos out here:Brathwaite's Ali photo: https://kwamebrathwaite.com/artworks/5030-kwame-brathwaite-ali-gray-day-on-the-congo-1974-c.-printed-2017/Brathwaite's Jackson 5 photo: https://kwamebrathwaite.com/artworks/5130-kwame-brathwaite-untitled-jacksons-on-boat-from-goree-island-1974-c.-printed-2018/This bonus episode was released half a year earlier than it became available on Spotify. To get access to all bonus episodes like this one upon initial release, become a paid subscriber to 5AM StoryTalk at Apple or Substack:Apple: ⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/5am-storytalk/id1807437928⁠⁠Substack: ⁠⁠https://colehaddon.substack.com/⁠⁠Be sure to listen to the first part of my chat with Mike, too:Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mike-jackson-doesnt-care-if-he-ruffles-feathers-get/id1807437928?i=1000721055362Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0X6bgskARdOvYaD3p3XYV4?si=3b18bcc9dbe44339Substack: https://colehaddon.substack.com/p/new-podcast-episode-q-and-a-producer?utm_source=publication-searchMike and I discuss the following and much more:Mike and I discuss the following and much more:The intersection of the history of the North American slave trade and these two photos of iconic Black Americans on the coast of Africa, contemplating the ocean between them and their countryMike’s emotional relationship to and interpretation of each of these photosHow Kwame Brathwaite’s work has only been recently rediscovered by Brathwaite’s son The impact of Brathwaite’s photographs on America culture – but obviously, especially Black American cultureThe impact of Brathwaite’s phrase “Black is beautiful” – which he popularized – had on Mike growing up even before Mike knew who Brathwaite wasThoughts on Brathwaite’s compositions and possible reasons his popularity didn’t extend more deeply into white American culture during the photographer’s lifetimeThe influence of Brathwaite on Black American artists today.TIP JARNot up for a paid subscription but appreciate the work that’s gone into making this podcast happen? You can “buy me a coffee” ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/colehaddon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LINKS:Learn more about Mike Jackson here: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1685816/Listen to Mike’s podcast Why Not Me? here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-not-me-with-mike-jackson/id1751395437https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-not-me-with-mike-jackson/id1751395437Learn more about Kwame Brathwaite here: https://kwamebrathwaite.com/Check out my favorite Brathwaite photo here: https://kwamebrathwaite.com/artworks/7279-kwame-brathwaite-untitled-crowd-at-human-kindness-day-1975-c.-printed-2021/SOCIAL MEDIAFollow Cole/5AM StoryTalk at…⁠⁠5AM StoryTalk @ Instagram⁠⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/5amstorytalkpodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cole Haddon @ Instagram⁠⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/colehaddonwashere/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bsky.app/profile/colehaddon.bsky.social⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Threads⁠⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.threads.com/Colehaddonwashere⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠EMAIL⁠[email protected] StoryTalk would like to acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which this podcast is recorded, the Djarra people of the Kulin Nation and pay respects to Elders past and present.This podcast's music is by ⁠⁠Cary Brothers⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.carybrothers.com/⁠⁠

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