BONUS: Songwriting, collaboration, and life as a working musician (with Wade Hymel)

Wade Hymel and Matt Stokes sit down for a free-wheeling discussion about different approaches to songwriting, creativity, collaboration, and recording. Wade also talks about his experience as a working musician, what going on tour is like, and what it's like to play music on a cruiseship. Then they talk about Wade's great new album Who Said That?  Hear Wade's amazing new album WHO SAID THAT? on Apple Music (https://apple.co/49xiC29), Spotify (https://bit.ly/3I2SwYE), or wherever else music is streamed. Or you can purchase the album from Bandcamp (https://bit.ly/3I2Syje). Watch this conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Z3pf0N858yA Time stamps: 00:44 — What is a typical day like for a working musician? 05:37 — Wade's experiences playing on cruiseships 08:50 — Van life 11:39 — How have things changed over time for touring musicians? 16:58 — The importance of the producer in recorded music  19:24 — Different approaches to songwriting 22:57 — How did Rural Route Nine's song "Winston-Salem" go from an extremely fast punk song to a slower-tempoed dream pop suite? 29:24 — How does Wade record demos?  36:55 — Who Said That? album discussion 43:06 — How important are lyrics? 51:02 — Wade's song "Letter From Home"