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EPISODE · Sep 16, 2026 · 36 MIN

Bonus: The Later Lie (Why Hitting Every Goal Still Doesn't Feel Like Enough)

from Cubicle to CEO · host Ellen Yin

Ambitious founders often cling to the promise of: push hard now, so you can enjoy the payoff once “made it”. The problem is, the finish line keeps sliding forward, so the reward never actually arrives. Heather Sager—an executive high performance coach for visible, visionary leaders— is calling this out. As a former corporate executive turned entrepreneur with two decades of leadership experience and more than 1,500 stages under her belt, Heather works with founders on the self-leadership, communication, and presence that scaling actually demands. In this interview, Heather digs into why hitting the number, hiring the team, and reaching the milestone so often produces a shrug instead of a celebration, and why the real cost hits the founder's health, relationships, and energy long before it ever touches their P&L. Connect with Heather: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://heathersager.com/ Loving our bonus content and want more Cubicle to CEO in your ears? Join us every Monday on our subscriber-only premium feed for case study–style interviews with successful entrepreneurs debriefing their real-time growth experiments and results. Subscribe to get insider access to what's actually been working for businesses in the last 3-18 months: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠cubicletoceo.co/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you enjoyed today's episode, please: Post a screenshot & key takeaway on your IG story and tag us ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@cubicletoceo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ so we can repost you. ⁠⁠⁠Subscribe to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠our premium feed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for case-study style interviews every Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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