BONUS: The roots of America's COVID chaos with Dan Balz of the Washington Post

Bonus extended interview: The Trump administration’s response to the COVID emergency has been widely decried as inconsistent and unequal to the enormity of the task. DAN BALZ of the Washington Post tells the IfG’s Bronwen Maddox how decades of “hollowing out” government were compounded by the President’s suspicion of a “Deep State” to produce a crisis in state effectiveness. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices