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EPISODE · Jul 14, 2025 · 42 MIN

BONUS: What Does It Mean to Believe Survivors? In Conversation with Mary DeMuth and Colleen Ramser

from Devil and the Deep Blue Sea · host Christianity Today

In this bonus episode of Devil and the Deep Blue Sea, we explore one of the most difficult and essential topics raised in season 1: abuse. Joined by guests Colleen Ramser and Mary DeMuth, we discuss the complexities of trauma, memory, and belief, especially when it comes to hearing and honoring the stories of survivors. From systemic failures in churches to the personal weight of silence and shame, this conversation is both heavy and hopeful. You’ll also find links below to the important work and resources offered by our guests. Mary DeMuth https://www.marydemuth.com/  wetoo.org  Colleen Ramser https://colleenramser.com/ Please consider liking the DDBS Facebook page to keep up on all show news, livestreams, and conversations with other listeners. Devil and the Deep Blue Sea is a production of Christianity Today  Hosted and written by Mike Cosper  Produced by Rebekah Sebastian, with production assistance by Dawn Adams  Sound Design and Mix Engineer: TJ Hester  Sound Design, Animation, and Video: Steve Scheidler  Graphic Design: Nim Ben Reuven  Music by Dirt Poor Robins  Erik Petrik and Mike Cosper are the executive producers of CT Media Podcasts, and Matt Stevens is our senior producer.  If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and review to help more people find the show. Thanks for listening.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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