Brad Fisher & Chris Grimes: How 2 Great Coaches Help People the Same Way | Listening Without Agenda

In this episode of Just Press Record, Matt Zeigler brings together motivational comedian and storytelling coach Chris Grimes and structural scalability expert Brad Fisher for a spontaneous, free-flowing conversation about story, leadership, presence, improvisation, personal growth, and the bridges between creativity and organizational transformation. What begins as a playful meeting between two strangers quickly evolves into a deep exploration of how stories shape who we are, how we lead, and how we help others make meaningful transitions in business and in life.Topics Covered• Why asking tell me your story creates instant connection and trust• How deep listening unlocks meaningful conversations• The role of presence and improvisation in leadership and communication• Chris Grimes on The Good Listening To Show and his story framework• Brad Fisher on structural scalability, the second leap, and transforming businesses• How to find your island B and define what you really want next• The power of letting go, delegation, and moving from how to who• Legacy, purpose, creativity, and finding your flow state• Storytelling as a tool for coaching, leadership, and personal transformation• Balancing business growth with authenticity and well-beingTimestamps00:00 Introduction00:56 Why Tell Me Your Story Works01:33 Deep Listening and The Good Listening To Show02:00 Purpose, Flow, and Alchemy02:47 Story as the Golden Thread03:21 Introducing Chris Grimes and Brad Fisher06:10 The Art of Skip Diving08:00 Dog Psychology and Early Notes09:55 First Impressions: Guessing Each Other’s Work12:09 What Is a Motivational Comedian14:01 How Improv Changes Communication16:29 Eyes on Springs and Presence18:00 Teaching Spontaneity and the Clock of Now20:00 Tell Me Your Story as a Leadership Tool22:23 Legacy Life Reflections and Capturing Stories24:09 StoryCorps and Shared Human Stories26:34 How the Legacy Framework Works28:00 Brand Stories, Founder Stories, Leadership Stories30:24 Story Structures and 5 4 3 2 133:00 Alchemy, Gold, and the Cake34:09 How Brad Builds Stories With Clients37:01 Brad’s Framework and the Second Leap39:00 Stage One Companies vs Stage Two Companies41:00 The Six Scalability42:53 Second Curves and Reinventing Yourself44:56 Courage, Change, and Revealing What’s Already There46:12 Leading With Presence and Letting the Team Step Up48:00 Island A vs Island B50:17 Who Not How and Shifting Your Mindset51:00 Chris’s Podcast Growth and Distribution53:00 Becoming a Digital Nomad Broadcaster55:00 What to Stop Doing: Busyness vs Flow57:00 Building Support Around the Creative Work59:00 Self-Compassion and Reducing Pressure01:01:00 Following the Soul Chime01:02:00 Building vs Extracting Stories01:03:00 Creativity in the Known and Unknown