Brains and Brawn, Mike Catherwood

Hello friends, thank you for joining us for the forthcoming episode with our dear old friend Mike Catherine would just want to let you know enjoy the next hour or so But after that there is two more stinking hours I want to say we're censored here on YouTube But we're really not censored over on patreon and you can hear the show that we taped after the show a continuation of the show With Catherine would if you sign up for a free seven-day trial, which means not only can you hear that show you can hear everything We've got in there in seven days I don't think you will be able to listen to everything that is waiting for you at patreon.com slash Ellis made within seven days That is how much stuff you get when you sign up. Don't call us lies go check it out for yourselves. It is worth it three two Welcome to the show everybody my good friend my cat who is here so we have a guest and a good friend All right, it's great. It's great to have him here and it's great to be here it's great to be alive and And I'm tired and sore my ankles and my shins are very sore from 20 year olds kicking me and it feels great It feels it doesn't I don't know about great.

It feels it feels like I'm not anxious I got a blanket on me right now, which is similar to tweed where I feel like my body is not like I gotta go I gotta go. I gotta do something. I gotta kind of do this. I feel like I Exhausted myself to the point of just feel kind of relaxed bit tired I could just roll myself up in a little burrito blanket and call it a day But I think I'd rather be like this than anxious.

So it was a it was a it was a I didn't plan it I didn't know I was gonna do it. I woke up this morning real early and I text my boxing coach and he's like man I gotta do stuff today and I was like man It's a gym even open. He's like I'm closing it at 10. I was like man And then I was like I was gonna go to because I still have a membership to gold's gym in Venice Yeah, and I actually before you leave today I want you to go in my backyard and tell me because I know you're the greatest weightlifting expert I've ever met and at one point when I was lifting weights with you I did get bigger I looked fucking bigger yeah, and I really want to do that now because I'm like I'm losing weight I lost like 16 pounds and I probably lost like another 10 today this morning But now that I'm doing all the cardio and because creative makes you vomit if you exercise.

Oh, yeah So if you get heart rate goes up you just vomit so that's not there anymore And now that I have a smoke weed for eight days because I was worried about cuz I wouldn't go I thought that I was never going to Saxons my tie ever again Shout out to Saxons my time, but I thought I wasn't gonna go there ever again because when you go there They just don't play like out of all the things I've ever done like a cross train What is it that when you experience and what's the what's the circuit training like where I've done circuits where I'm like This is so hard and painful for some weird reason Saxons on a Tuesday morning is harder Well, they just I run you jump this burpees is push ups it kicks these in the knees and all the knee Things and kick things because my buddies a boxer as soon as I start kicking it's twice as much cardio like it flattens me so quick Well, you have most of your must be the truth below your belly button I got bigger legs getting that moving it takes a lot more You know the the old the old ten kick thing is what they like you do kicks And then at the very end of your workout that you got to do ten on each side And it's a pop pop pop pop so you just you're bouncing on your toe and you're bringing that the big part of your leg up And it's it gets to the point where when you start throwing it you go pop pop pop and you're going you're telling yourself pop pop pop pop And you're like wow my buddy is shutting off right now like bluh bluh and the kick is not hard It's shitty and yeah, that's literally one of the reasons why Dutch kickboxing developed Yeah, because if you know in Thailand especially this is not a big man's game Yeah, and you're 130 pounds 125 pounds go And they run like crazy they're very well conditioned but they can do that the Dutch are literally the biggest people in the world Like statistically and so they would have a specific islanders might have a word with you on that. Oh, okay I'm talking I told I say yeah, but you know you're when you talk about the tallest people in the planet And then those tallest people who get into kickboxing are usually kind of You know and they developed a game that was still they still kick and they still kick super hard But it's not as like the training style if you watch like old mike's gym Ramon's deckers all these guys are greatest They're not training the same way like a lupini stadium. Tye guy would be trained. We're just like Yeah, yeah, yeah, because they can do that.

You know, they're under the Bruce Lee size compared to an NBA player who happens to be well Everybody's pretty small at sex. It's a couple of big guys. Eh, but they're all younger, but um, yeah I just I was like, you know what screw it or how bad could it be and I was also ready to go I can't breathe in a minute. I'm gonna stop and you can all look at me go Why is he stopping?

I was prepared to do that, but I also know how they go So I pace myself, but I made it all the way through and then they had some sparring and I was like sparring It's I feel like some of the people there know who I am still and they're like you don't have to spar and I'm like, no I'm okay, like it's light right and they're like yeah, so so that was really fun because I haven't done that for a long time and I held my own just fine and I wasn't sure because I haven't kicked for a long time. I gotta learn how to stand different again And I was definitely nervous the whole time, but um I made it through, you know, I made it through without and I haven't done any of that for over three years Which means if I go for a couple weeks, that's gonna be even easier And that kind of is the only bad thing about going there is I don't want to feel like I'm drowning the whole time in that place Makes you feel like you're drowning because it's just I can't breathe and it's like come on man You know, you got like you know 45 minutes left I can't breathe already. So it's very euphoric to get that much out. I feel so I love it, man Yeah, I'm definitely gonna get back there, but I want to get back into lifting weights was very therapeutic That's one of the often overlooked aspects of looking heavy weights people see it's like oh, that's just for meatheads and For vanity, but as far as like if you're looking at the release of hormones that make you feel good It might be what the greatest step so far in my sobriety because I've been sick for a week from being sober You know, I can't work out like I want to work out because I don't want to sit here and think about it But I'm sick like like the last thing I want to do is work out like I try to lift weights in the backyard I get dizzy.

I'm like man. I can't even work out. I just got to sit with it So I've been sitting with it, you know, and it's it's been really really hard man like I've never been in a harder spot in my life ever and it's been by myself a lot over here And I kind of want to I guess it's like part of it is like I want to stay by myself And I keep thinking of like the worst things possible and I keep trying to get them out of my head But they keep coming and I'm like I guess that's just what it is It's just gonna keep coming until it's tapped out. I gotta let it pour out so Sometimes it gets you know like ridiculous.

I'm like man, you know, like I had a dream last night that woke me up and it was just like Who makes that dream? What kind of an asshole whips that up? How am I supposed to go back to sleep? Running that my ex and her boyfriend had a TV show Why?

Why can't you dream of like Blowjobs, what the hell? Why is that why are they in my life? Hate me for that, but I can't you know, I gotta stay positive But I know that it'll eventually go away. I just gotta keep going And then you know of eventually I'll probably have dreams of like, you know, horsies and stuff fun things that don't have anything to do with the pain of of my mistakes But my daughter came over last night with her boyfriend and they made me Thanksgiving dinner Oh, which I was very very touched by and my son came over and we all hung out and uh I loved Evan and and she's I didn't even like she's cooking and I'm like you realize This is the first time for sure in my life that you have ever cooked me a meal and you're cooking Things in a way where you've looked like you've done this before and she's like, can you stir the pasta and I'm like, yeah I can but she put the potatoes on a pan with no With no tin foil just on the tray and I think the tray was a bit dirty And I think I was my stomach was kind of hurting last night.

I woke up in a bit of pain fighting a lot And then that dream hit me at 11. So then I was up until about three and then I went back to sleep And uh woke up at six Not not sick anymore and I was like you can go you can go today You could go you could lift weights you could do something and you could get a full workout Which made me text Julio and Julio's like 10 am and it's on right now. So I drove up there and Uh, blew my lungs out more than I'm it's crazy to know like boxing I can box I can do an hour of boxing and it's hard. Not saying it's not hard, but I don't think I've ever felt This like like oh my god my back.

It's like my back from throwing kicks You know, I'm not I haven't done it and my my ankles are sore My shins are sore from checking stuff and kicking people but it feels good. I'm a little worried about tomorrow Like I want to go again tomorrow morning, but I'm 50-50 on that. I might wake up I'm like, whoo, okay like which will also be okay if I'm really worn out tomorrow That's gonna feel good like as long as I don't feel oh man. I'm anxious.

I gotta go like sorry. I've been going train train to You're like one of the beautiful things about Unless you're professional one of the beautiful things for the most of us about making a commitment to Any fitness endeavor? Would it be like weight loss running marathon? Uh martial arts whatever Is that you have very little things in your life, especially you grow into adulthood where you have complete control over it?

Yeah, there's no if you're volunteering to do something when it go to the gym go for a run That's that's you no one dictates that. I mean obviously there's variables that can make it harder your wife can be a mass bitch or You just watch your job or whatever. You know, you're you got a new job and it's really it takes a lot of your time There's things like but as far as like whether you do it or not and how hard you go that's it's right there There's no coach. There's no judge telling you to do it.

There's no parent telling you to do it, right? So if you wake up tomorrow And you're just fucked because you're in your fifties and you went really hard and you had me going You can still get out and move your body. Yeah, you're in charge You know, you can say like i'm gonna do what's best for me right now and it's not going redlining it It's just getting my body to get a little sweet Gifting is a no brain of these holiday season. Thanks to unmatched confidence style of me undies from undies to bralettes to socks and lounge wear Me undies has the perfect gift for yourself or anyone else on your list not sure what to buy you're that uncle He doesn't need anything.

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It's like if you like 400 pounds is 400 pounds here in Southern California It's 400 pounds back in Texas It'll be 400 pounds when I'm 70 and it was 400 pounds when I was 19 And there was a time in my life where it was laughable to think like I was gonna walk up in depth without warming up There's points in my life where that was a warm up and it'll it never changed I could always measure like well, how much weight how much effort are you putting it? Yeah, and it always it always was very clean the outcome and the deposit was very proportionate, you know Are you seeing I know that you're waging a one-man war which I admire against the effects of aging and decline You're at a certain age where that would be maybe inevitable. Maybe are you seeing it? Yeah, um and I saw you see like the funny stuff about it when you're 35 But I'm gonna be 45 margin now.

I'm seeing like oh like I can't deny this You know and I've absolutely lied myself. I'm denying it and I get myself in trouble. No, here's the thing What's that? I did a 540 that the other way did you pull it off?

I made it. Yeah, so you're not lying to it No, I don't think I don't think it's real I think I'm just as good. I think I could beat me at 25 25. Yeah, yeah Try to say with with K michael with sports It's a ball with sports involved.

I'm the best I've ever been speed and power It's tough to say because some people literally become so much smarter at what they're doing That's the other thing I noticed when I was firing today instead of just attacking people I was watching what they're doing and and looking to see where the shot is and I usually don't fight like that I usually just I just smash you you know, like I you go a punch I'll try to get out of the way and then I'll throw my stuff But I was like watching what people were doing and what their favorite thing was to do and I was like, okay So if you do that I can step to the outside of that encounter it and I started kind of getting away with stuff I started piecing up to people who will go in light. It was very light. So it wasn't a big deal, but it was You know, I miss that, you know, because I don't want to get hit in the head I know I've got people that care about me. I know I hit my head a lot So I don't want to be like a regular sparring guy and take big shots anymore But this was light and it was very rare that anyone was even throwing head shots and if they were they were pretty light And I can see him coming so I never I didn't get caught at all Um, but just the game being in the zone of of of you know, potentially getting kicked in the face You got to pay attention to that if you could still be You could take it too lightly and get he could accidentally kick you in the head It can still happen you accidentally kick me in that window.

I didn't accidentally kick you in there You accidentally get out of the way I ducked it just wasn't and hit the top of my head and grazed off and I was like, oh, it hit me flush and like there was like a five second delay And I was like, oh my legs got awkward As funny it was one. Yeah, so I'm glad I did that I've got a lot of meetings They're helping but they don't help when you when you go there. They're terrible like in it. I'm like, oh Oh, you know, I don't want to be here, but it goes really fast.

Here's the thing about meetings Uh, and I don't like to talk about it too much in the public because there's literally anonymous But what I will say is anybody who is either just new to recovery in a 12 step, uh, world and or thinking about it meetings are definitely like a therapist or a psychiatrist Feel free to find the ones that work for you. I mean some I had I had some that uh, and I will say ironically Um a lot of the ones where it was almost exclusively like a higher caliber wealthier Yeah, hard charging guy like especially out here in Southern California in LA you get there's immense egg meetings that are almost exclusively like rock stars and That's the ones I used to go and I really didn't like it and then I started I found a couple meetings around here that were in the hood And uh, it would be not only enjoyable. Sometimes it was like life changing here in these guys Like a hard and dude spend their life in jail and alternatively cops sitting right next to them and you're like, this is beautiful I would say even the bad ones is always something good from it. Yeah, even the worst one I've been at I took something from it Yeah, so they're they've always all these new ones I'm kind of excited about going to different ones because I don't think I can go to a worse one than I've already been to and that was good It sounds to me to tie two threads together.

It sounds a bit like going to the gym like there's good ones and bad ones But just just going to the gym. It's what you what you make of it when you walk out You're like, okay, well, I tried I did some stuff like yes That was not what I was looking for but it's I still hit the reset button a little bit Yeah, and then it's written and how great it feels when you find that gym with the environment. You're like I like this Yeah, these are great people. I like this equipment.

Yeah, actually went the same thing I went with some um some queer people to one a bit a bit more of a queer meeting and then they were like do you want to go eat with this and I was like not really And they're like come on I was like, all right, I'll go and I was like, I don't like new people, you know And then I went to some diner and eight with these people that I don't really know and and they were all really friendly and helpful and I'm glad I went, you know, there's no way I would have gone You know when I think about that like two weeks ago, there's a way I would go to a diner with three people I don't know You know with uh, I'll admit it with no payoff, you know, that's what I'm about Yeah, what's what's just gonna get me, you know, which is also You know showing me like what what I've been up to lately is kind of you know, stay sedated Go do the job, you know, I mean, it's gonna get me something, you know, because I'm getting me me Gotta get something what's it gonna get me, you know, which which when you lose your job and and things start failing And all you're thinking about is how you're next goal and how you're gonna get stuff It becomes the most depressing existence ever because the thing that you think about all day is failing So you're just thinking about failing all day It's just a constant reminder that you're not where you're supposed to be That's how I that's how I really see it. So Not thinking about where I'm going You know, like where's my job? Where's my career? I still you know, obviously care about it, but I just want to be Stable, I want to be helpful, you know, I want to I want to be grounded I want to I want to love the day, you know, there's little things that have happened lately Just little things that don't last very long unfortunately, but there's been little snippets where I was so Happy just for a second just singing and dancing by myself You know, I don't know how it happened I helped somebody recently and then when I got home I just felt like dancing and I was dancing around my house and my dogs were barking at me And I just felt so happy and then like I 30 minutes later I'm crying in the backyard But I know that that's like keep you keep working More of that is gonna be there and less of the other thing is gonna be there and The pain of it all is unfortunately that's the teacher, you know, like my life is never all the things that have hurt me have paid off in the end They've made me stronger.

They made me resilient and they've made me better at things You know because I because I come back and I and I fix that thing that was that was that was wrecking me the last time I got better, you know, and it's just like you just keep going at all of it everything go to the gym go to the thing Whatever it is eat right, you know, like I just get sick of it be like, ah cheeseburgers, you know now It just seems like cheeseburger like why like what about tomorrow and I just never thought like that I've never been able to think like that the only time I ever think like that is when I've got a fight that I know I have to make a certain way And that would haunt me all day. Oh man. I just want cheese, you know, I just want to shake and now I'm like, you know, I don't have bought cakes yesterday. I didn't even really want to eat it It's this one in the fridge and I haven't eaten it.

I'm probably it's probably gonna go off and I'm gonna put it in the trash Who am I? I have eaten Candy I thought I said with candy hanging out my mouth. I could have choked on a gummy bear and now I'm like brushing my teeth before I go to bed like Candy, you know, like I got water, you know, I drink water when I'm in bed I don't do any I don't even have the feeling to do it. You're um, something has happened.

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I've I've never met you're constantly Very consumed with people being happy and taking care of around people that you care about you are you are invested in that and It just makes me think only because I'm by no means a mental health professional But this is exactly what I went through is I had this really tough time Ironically not right when I got clean but a couple years in where I realized I spent a long time not even half as long as you because I was 21 years old You're growing you've spent nearly 50 years Trying to be something that you're not and now you're really trying to recognize that and make the real happy fully Develop Jason come to be and that's fucking hard man. It's really like size niggly hard. Hmm. You know yeah Yeah, yeah, maybe you're right Yeah, I mean when I'm paying attention when I'm here on the planet.

Yeah, but lately you haven't been here man lately I've been A little not here the whole time as much as possible. I'm surprised I can do what I do Like when I think about making that 540 I smoked a giant dooby to myself before I went on that ramp And I know that when I smoke a whole dooby I am not the greatest athlete that I can be I know that and I also did a shot of cratum One in the morning and one in the afternoon before I made that five and I know for a fact that that has been responsible for some of my concussions in the last couple of years because I was just not 100 percent there and I didn't see where I was going like I thought I was and the next thing you know I'm like what's going on? They're like dude, you got knocked down look at your helmet. I'm like, oh man And I'm like, oh man, that's just the age, you know, I'm like it's not age dumbass like you're high You're high enough to make your body not work the way it works and you and the only reason I'm older.

I'm not as good as a skateboard as I used to be but I still know I know when I'm not speeding fast enough I know when I like I can tell when my body's doing good and when it is like I can tell it to do something It doesn't do it. I'm like I feel foggy, you know, it's like I hang over like my vision is I don't see it. I don't look at anything when I see everything I look straight, but I see everything like when I'm gonna land I don't look at the landing I see the landing I also see over there. I see my hand I see my board I see my foot and I see the landing and when it gets all foggy and zoned in You can't really see anything and you just I'm kind of running on it's kind of like that dead devil guy where he could sense where he is Yeah, except I'm in reality.

So where I sense where I am is probably not where I am So it's a little off and that's how I got knocked out in Utah I was I was like my tail's gonna hit but my wheels hit and I've front flipped in and like not only did I get knocked out I've ripped my neck in some such a way that I couldn't do anything for like eight months Like I really did. It's dangerous. It's dangerous. And I'm talking about like a 220 pound man landing his head like you could have died I would it's not said Since I've been sober from the cradums and people have messaged me about they appreciate me being open about it And they a lady messaged me and said that a lot she lost her her husband and they have two kids to alcohol And now she goes to the meeting you go to when you were married to Alex alananya Yeah, and that she has three women that she knows they're that lost their husbands To create them and I was like, what do you mean cradum?

She's like they had a seizure and died and I was like I didn't know you could do that And then yeah, I just think if you want to do it Like I'm not if you want to smoke weed you should good great if you want to create a cool if you want to be here as I'm not trying to Everybody stop. I just think that I can tell like I see tiktok there's videos now joe rogan talking about how cool feel freeze are feel freeze are Really dangerous like when I quit those I Brianna was there I was almost I was having a seizure I almost had a seizure and I had butted the concrete to stop it I'm not lying you guys. I swear and I'm not I'm not trying to get anybody mad or anything I'm just telling you that it got that bad that she told me afterwards that she was thinking about getting me to the hospital And then I quit that and I got on another one that's just creative because feel free has created man Carva in it And it was really bad, but it was not as it was not as bad. I did not you know obviously I was in pain my stomach hurt Crapping myself like this is I'm doing four of a day That's that's how bad it got uh, but you know it was Four days I think four days where you know, I'm rocking back and forth my stomach is hurting I'm just sitting here by myself and then for like three days after it I was like I feel sick I can't work out if I like did arm curls with 25 pound thing I had to get to 20 I'd start to feel a bit dizzy and I have to put it down and get my air back before I could do some more And otherwise I feel like I was gonna vomit and this is you know eight days without it So it's I just want people to know what they're doing before they do it because it seems cool Like I got sponsored by him.

They gave him to me for free I was like hell yeah after you skates kind of relaxing next thing you know because that's the other thing some people can ever be here And it's cool like telekine ever beer and that's it I can have a beer and then all of a sudden I black out and I got Prostitutes. I don't have any money. You know like I can't do that. I'm a monster So depends on who you are.

I just want people to know because I feel like I'm not trying to shit on Joe I don't think he knows I think he got one like one point when I got him I talked about it because I felt good when I did it But then I abused it and I felt real sick real bad and just watch out everybody that's all I'm trying to do Just just morning. Yeah to watch out a little bit. You know, it's just it's just we all know that alcohol can do that We all know that you know if you do heroin that could be a little dicey if you do a bunch of coke It could be dangerous. We all know that but I just it just seems like right now 2023 not a lot of people know that if you do that you're playing with fire like I'm serious I just you know from you know it depends on where you are you know you're all there you get some paint like it's like you've got like you've got a Some sort of back or you know, you know, nerve damage and you're in pain and the doctors can't stop it And they're trying to give you some kind of morphine or something Maybe you can do the feel free instead, but it just like there's they don't the difference is this the words are not No one knows like it's bad for your kidneys as bad if you live out, you know, like it makes you look terrible So that's the age you and if you're you know, if you want if you want to look good like I do That was depressing.

You know how you get over that. You do another one That's how I did in the solution. Yeah, same spot Yeah, I think there has to be I have a hard time believing there isn't a little of willful ignorance or willful Niaveté on the part of people who take that and tell themselves it isn't a drug I think I agree I think that goes with all control substances in 2023 my feeling is And I'm in the same boat as Jason. I worked very hard to let people know I am not I drugs now call is not for me That's my life and my thing.

I have zero desire to steer people away You're grown up and you work hard. You want to crack a beer take a bongle. That's your business, man You know that and I would never ever try to persuade someone unless they unprovoked king to me I have a problem I think but I think right now people more so than any time in history in this country are so sad and so Unfulfilled That they are willing to overlook a lot when it comes to something that they know is going to give them some level I don't like the company that sells it and says you know instead of having a beer have one of these and it's like that's not You know beer is bad for you. This isn't it is like that is a lie It's like when they it's like the pyramid back in the 80s like that's a lie dude.

It's just to get more money It's not you don't need cheese It shouldn't be the pyramid like bread and cheese. No, you don't know you do not your buddy does not need it and at one point It was suggested that you need it like if you don't have bread you'll get sick And it's part of the pyramid of health. I don't back up. Okay, pump your breaks Wait, bread is good.

I find it to be a staple of anyone's good healthy diet bread that you real bread Oh, just any bread products. Just go ahead load up really crackers cookies. What no I mean, I trust you know more than me. I was like wait.

It's good. I'll get a low fry dance. I'm confident I'm so bad. It's so good bread products.

I think is the one thing that is kind of collectively agreed about because there's so much controversy and But it wasn't that pyramid thing. Yeah, but also it's in fairness in fairness It was about to bring me back of loaf of bread. I can't start eating this in fairness. It was different bread back then Yeah, that's the same different bread.

That's what's the thing people say that they go to a europe or something And they like even on vacation and they eat all the pasta and everything they want and they lose weight Yeah, I don't know this for sure. I just sort of take talk probably but a lot of a lot of it is Absolutely, it's true. Uh a lot of it is too though that Certain preparations of the same food certain side dishes with the same food Makes you eat less There are things that are just so highly palatable and they're very calorically dense Um, my my the best advice or analogy I like to give people is um if I boiled a potato right now Put some sea salt on it maybe some lemon juice or something and I said eat it just until you feel stuff and you don't want anymore You're just grossed out by it You most people regardless of size regardless of their level of appetite would tap out after maybe half the potato I mean it was a good size video now if I took that same potato and I french-fried it With you know, I suppose what not Not only would you finish that potato you would think it was like such an alarmingly small portion Yeah of french fries which is from one potato and you would eat more and it would be four times the calories And so I think we also it kind of ties back into you know, everyone talks about the obesity. It's gluten It's it the reality is it's like we are so stressed.

We're so unhappy and we're eating more We're eating so much more because we're eating we're working more and making less money So things like convenience food become much more appealing. I saw a thing Joe Rogan doing good saying about salmon That farm salmon they die it they die the meat to make it look red because it's not red because they're corn fed And apparently that salmon is actually bad for you and I'm like Salmon is I don't really like I eat it I mean but it's not my favorite one I eat it because I'm trying to be healthy Yeah And to know that if I'm just getting it at a normal restaurant I'm getting this corn fed one that is not not only am I missing out on steak But I'm eating crap and that they've just flipped that and I don't think any of us know it I got only that's out there. Did you know that they died salmon? It's I mean it is if you go to the even the grocery store most of the time it'll say it has color added I don't think too many people are reading that.

Yeah, they just see salmon What is the one that you get that is a actual salmon that nobody? Wildcat. Yeah, suck eye But that's to say it's a say what? Sock eye.

Sock eye like literally a sock eye. Yeah is one kind of wildcat salmon But yeah, well and you can even say wild because I know that sometimes when they say because you gave me eggs today I was like what about the ones in the supermarket that say that they're What is it called cage free cage free and you said some of them the case free for like the last week You can be no they can be cage free for like a couple like an hour a and claim it be cage free So they're not it's a lie. Yeah, but there's also there's things that you can read that you're bonafide You know, it's good. You know my pasture raised eggs are a right But I you know I don't know look I a lot of more intelligent reading people great You know that but I'm talking to my people you know, I don't read I don't know if it doesn't go up on TikTok I didn't know about it.

You know, I was like salmon. I don't have that much money Expensive once we get the salmon how back into any salmon be it turns out real bad That's why I always tell people I say you can drive yourself crazy to the point that you actually shoot yourself in the foot Trying to get so detail oriented But even the most uneducated person when it comes to nutrition knows a couple things if you eat too much you're going to gain weight Yeah, right So let's taper that back What can we eat that would help us in that journey to do so things that are going to be more filling and more nutrient dense Right because in the long term it's gonna because I'll be very honest with you You can eat pop parts McDonald's if you eat a regulated amount You will lose weight and and you know, there's there were bodybuilders at a certain time the 90s were drugs were really getting geeky That were eating, you know protein shakes and pop tarts and they were shredded but they were just you know, white knuckle it and perfect amount, you know, okay Um, but that's not long term what you want to be doing So you think of things like a higher protein diet is gonna have not only is it more filling It's gonna be a higher thermic affected food meaning that it actually burns more calories to digest it Uh And if you can't afford wild caught salmon or if you can't afford grass fed pasteurized beef Does that mean don't get beef? No, it doesn't it just means that let's pick and shoot because I think oftentimes people get so geeky about these details But then they end up then spending more money down the road and then they're back to buying fast food Like you're back at applebees a week later because you've driven yourself crazy and it's very frustrating So you're saying making great the enemy of good. Yes.

Yeah, I think it was was a ball sack or both hair Some french dude said, you know, the nothing destroys perfection more Or so nothing destroys great more than perfection this desire to you get I mean if Aubrey Wants to go and have literally Aubrey mark his or one of the people he's wealthy He certainly knows these details backwards and forwards and if he wants to make it his entire diet biodynamic everything that's fine But don't shoot yourself in the foot because you can't get to that point. Believe me There's plenty of people who are thriving on 15 ground beef for at from the supermarket and a big old tub of white rice and every time you make the both of them Couple different seasonings you got your Mexican style, you know, the a style here You got your teriyaki Asian infused here and then throwing some vegetables two or three times with it and like that That's good to know as your uncle, you know, good as you always say good. Let's get to know you can do that This show is sponsored by better help. It is the holidays.

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Thank you Um, I feel like we live in a golden age red dark age. However you want to look at it of uh health tips fitness tips hacks what have you know, there's this army of people who either make their living or aspire to make their living Telling you the thing that you don't know about yet yet Which means there constantly needs to be new stuff to be telling people stop doing this start doing that Is there anything in particular that you feel like maybe just something you saw once or something? You feel like you're seeing a lot of these days. That's the quote unquote cutting edge that you're like, okay That's really the dumb one do sure Any exclusionist diet And what I mean by exclusionist diet is the removal of fill in the blank is your key to Happiness and weight loss and whatever maybe You just gotta eat nothing but steak, you know, you gotta eat low carbs.

No carbs take carbs out You gotta take gluten out you gotta take me out everything about reality is just like we are omnivores Uh, and there are humans thriving on this planet right now and for thousands of years who eat nothing but rude vegetables And they're shredded and they live to be a hundred there are people right now who are eating purely animal protein and they're thriving and they're living 200 good phone call We take live phone calls on the chase and i'll show hello. Who's this? This is Benny from Texas. I used to call it a long time.

I call it all the time back in the day. I'm serious What up Benny? What's your question? What the fuck is Demi's mate?

Okay, so he's talking about Demi's he has a video but i'm not gonna play it because i can already tell what the question is Because i saw a fish and chip shop in Australia Demi's the shop for dim sims and dim sims is wow this is gonna be tough because I don't make him. I always eat if you get dim sims you can get him steamed or deep fried and they're like They're originally an Asian vibe of sorts. I think an Asian brought it But it's that fish and chip shop which is usually a Greek guy or an Italian guy But you can get dim sims and you get soy sauce with it and you dip it in soy sauce But it's basically mince meat with some kind of pastry thing around it Yeah, and it's like what is it? There's an American version of it dumpling?

It's a dumpling. Yeah, it's a dumpling Or dim sum but in America we say dim sum Okay, well these dim sims are We might it might have been like somebody told us about him and we miss you know because Australians don't understand americans And they were like dude get a dim sum and we were like deep sim You know that might have that might have been what happened, but yeah dim sims are the biggest bogey meal Like what's that movie the tv show with the guy he's kind of like me like Shreda Park with? Nah the bald guy that he's got a kid and he punches people in the face that have it coming Have you seen that? Sounds sounds very intriguing.

It's a really good show. Damn it. Come on help me Brianna It's this guy it's Shit redneck evilizer. He's kind of like an equalizer.

He's a dad. He's like a heavy dude He's gonna be a heavy dude in the class. We show no He's a white guy with a mustache and he knows how to fight and stuff. He knows that you know that you know He's kind of like a Charles Brunson guy but like every now and then like he walked his kid home, right?

And it's this dude dudes bumped the kid and knocked the ice cream over and he was And he was like you're talking about it He was like fuck you when you stupid kid He was like and the kid goes dad don't worry about it because my kids do the same thing like they try to stop me from fighting And he goes yeah, yeah good point and then he takes it to the car he goes I was gonna go to the store real quick and grab some tickets Let me wallet and he goes down the other way and he sees him and he you know he wrecks them because he fucking punk Yeah, he wrecks them but he gets them. He's all the time in the show. He always asked for dimmies Yeah, Mr. Inbetween there you go one of the great shows on television right now highly recommended All right, thanks dude.

I hope that helped. Hey man I love you guys I called in a long time ago and you guys kind of stopped the show and you all told me like it was like a heartwarming kind of We fucking love you too and it made me cry back in the day because I just want to let you know man I've been listening since 09 and you guys are my fucking best friends So I know you don't know me but I fucking know you and I love you guys. I appreciate it Thanks for saying the f-word like 17 times on the podcast Okay, no, you're not on patreon. That's next that's after this show.

It's okay. It's okay. Let it go Screw you youtube There you go dimmies. You miss it in between such a good show.

He helps me with my temper He was based on a book series. I'm not oh, yeah, yeah, because it just seems like You know because sometimes I just feel like you know you being a dick and I was like if I if I you know me drag you around a little bit In a bash you're punching the face couple times. Yeah, make you a little bitch in front of everybody Yeah, maybe you learn you lesson, you know because I feel like some of these people Never had it never got it. Yes, that's what happened to me.

I got beat up It was a good lesson, you know that major Don't don't puff up if you can't back it up, you know, cuz I'll puff up before you're not puffing up just in your guy, especially If you're a successful guy if you're successful delays you you automatically I think develop some level of kind of echoe or and uh You know, I certainly don't want people unless they're really bad people. I don't want them to get beaten badly But getting rocker getting put in check is very my friend patreon's probably because he's a very good sports broadcaster He always said we would talk about interviewing athletes Now the lion's share of major sports in america these athletes were not easy to deal with, you know And it's good. They're super rich. They're super famous at something's everybody loves and they get cheered on by millions of people But hockey players are always cool.

I was like man. It is I was like this probably because it runs like an 80. He's like it's a good point. He's like what I think it is And this was a man who played really high level We almost played made at the NFL I think practicing but he played at SC football and he knows what he's talking about He said hockey players check themselves and they've been used to checking themselves since they were little kids guys got a line They literally as part of the sport.

They're like half this guy And then you go and you and I think there's a kind of self-regulation It is good. You know, I think your public service announcement stop pulling out your phone And if somebody's being that guy you need to like maybe you're not big enough Maybe talk to everybody else there and be like hey man Can we all gather up as a team and get this guy people being mean to ladies? You know, I've had enough of it man. I see these videos or people video like in a plane where guys punching a lady You know, it's not fair.

Why not on that plane, you know, I built for this I built for you to learn, you know, punch a lady in a plane I will choke you unconscious, shout out to busrood and take your pants and put him in the bathroom So you can't find him and you gotta walk around. You don't know who you already morn your naked And if I say a little penis because nine times out of ten, that's half the problem Who cares if it's little? It doesn't mean the world hates you. Don't be so angry at everyone god Little dick is kind of cute.

You know me like it's like a little egg He's like a little birdie and it just came out of that little eggy and I eat cheap cheap You know, like just pat your little dick. It's not being so mean in fact. I often kind of see yours Jason I was like, oh, what a burden What a burden to have all that. I mean it's a lot of circulation For you, man If it wasn't somebody attacking a lady on a plane if it was a lady who dropped trowel was urinating in the aisles of your plane I saw that yeah, I'm not gonna punch her because she's already urinated And she put it in a way in the bottom.

She did it away where I didn't see it coming Like I saw that video and I was like, what do you know it? Oh by the time she peed I there's no way I could have stopped it And I feel like trying to cop the pace I doesn't go on the comment It's not like that's not your job. You know that's like so Imagine yeah, this is because I was thinking about riding this joke about punching women because I feel like there's something there Because lately I got friends I mean, I got a lady fresh not my friend anymore But she got punched and harassed by it before guys in forty different days and I was like come on dudes What are you doing like you look at what's up? She's like leave me alone and then you get mad and say mean things to her That's really not cool But if you're like a really big lady and I'm a little guy and you're like picking on me You know like it kind of can't I punch you and then I was thinking John Wick greatest american that ever lived He he put a blanket a sheet over a lady punch in the face, but she was trying to kill him Yeah, there's a weapon when weapons are involved all bets are off.

Okay. Well then okay, but after he disarmed her He said you got to tell me something or I'm gonna kill you and she told him and then he pissed it with your unconscious But wait, but what he did it wait. Are we talking about a professional assassin? Yeah, okay.

Well again all that's all that's wrong It's like wait a woman who goes to battle and war like it's everything's different So you're saying if it's if it's his professional run to razzi. Yeah, I said professional flider I'm not doing that she's a professional assassin. It's a big difference. Okay, uh What's the the Russian lady another Russian chip?

Shekko. Yeah, because we all know she's secretly an assassin Shekko is like yeah, I do not like your pants. Yeah, son And I'm like, oh man, why are you picking on me? She's like, yeah, you're pussy.

You're stuck a dick and I'm like man that really hurt because I kind of do and then she's like I beat you And I'm like, okay And then I punch her in the face and knock her out. Yeah, am I a bad guy? No, right? And when john Wick punches lady, his thing people have seen this is the first one He pissed a whips her and she gets knocked out did anyone that watch that when the when the gun hit her in the head and knocked her out Did anyone go whoa?

Yes, I don't think they did Not because Keanu many people who go whoa saw john wick But I do know that people do that because of once upon a time in hollywood because literal murderers Uh, literally murder people and then said we're going to murder you and when brad pit got the opportunity he bashed it Shek's headed. Okay. Did you go? Well, what do you do that?

Not me but millions of people did Oh, it's a huge concert see that's insane. You got it That's like disrespecting a female by saying you can't punch her. I agree I'm you're saying that she's so pathetic that even when she's trying to murder you you can't punch her in the face I'm saying you're being insulting to women I'm saying I'm being flattering to women by saying Brad Pitcher punch her in the face and you know who's got the problem You do yeah wiener coming after what's that do with the fabulous jawline my cat with you do have a fabulous jawline But this guy's weak here. He's like half your age.

Sorry Michael Shannon. No, who's the guy with the he said half my age tell me come on Who's the guy with the stand up that everyone hates right now? Oh Matt reap right right right right right right dude your joke Wasn't even what you everybody that's got beef with Matt right talking about the lady didn't she's obviously not a good cook That's why she got a black eye in the first place You your life's I'm like, oh, I feel sorry for you because your life sucks. You suck.

You're a Karen dude guy I don't care. What's between your legs? You're bitch Wait, that could have sounded wrong. Okay.

I apologize for that. See I'm correcting myself. His joke was light That was diapesti and you guys were like, oh, he laughed about a punch in the face. He didn't punch anybody It's a fake story.

You know, it's comedy, right? Like we can't talk about that. What about Louis CK talking about how dumb the bible is It's pretty funny, you know Well, who cares? I don't think anywhere close to the majority of people would be offended by anybody Killing female members of the Manson family and self-defence or even fictional fictional depictions of that I think there's just so many people that even if 5% of people get angry about something and so many people that you go Like I see that all the time like oh, there was this huge demonstration in London and it's like what?

15,000 people will there and I'm like there's a 11 million people I'm sure if you were there you'd be like, oh my god. They just keep coming. What about this Michael. Yeah, I watched the African I mean Nah, it's new and it's African ladies and they kick an ass and she's the king of Africa.

Oh clear path or like panther? Nah, nah. Oh, what kind of forever? Yeah, like Nah, not black panther.

Nah. It's a lady in the jungle. She's the king. Oh, yeah with a viola No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, women's wallards Yeah, taken over they fighting guys and she fights this one guy and the guy way back raped her And now she's like come to take over and she's like hell no and then they fight and he like sorry She kills lots of dudes and then also girls get killed by dudes in it I don't feel any trigger at all from those fights.

Oh dude when they're saying that is a fair fight when there's a female warrior queen All rules are I can't fight a war with one hand behind my back I can't kill half your warriors because they happen to be female Yeah, here's one thing I really and I hate to because most podcasts do this now where people who are not Anthropologists or whatever try to like and they wax poetic but one thing I really noticed and this is just a personal anecdotal thing You know when I was a kid growing up, this is not I'm not blown smoke This is real most of the really highly impacting action movie stars that I saw on screen Like I took something home when I think about it We're women and these were not women who the world had decided like she's just a dumb bitch Why can't treat her and she has to deal with they were women who were just living their lives and through crazy circumstances ascended Not only would a male character would ascend but also Probably half the male characters assuming she's not strong enough right? So Sarah Connor and agent Ripley and alien aliens and You can punch one woman in the face. Starlink from Sun to Lambs was all of the FBI's she was the one who went to the right And she threw the whole time they were like oh cutie Are you gonna be okay in there with every moment? Yeah, she just went about her business and kick ass and I think when you automatically right out of the gate lower the standards I was like well, even though she's an assassin.

We're talking about a female Don't you have any respect here? It's like no like no I do have respect and that's why I'm gonna punch her in the face like I would punch anybody else in the face because I respect There was an equal yes That's why I would punch one woman in the face because I know that she would duck it and then she put the lasso on and then I would tell her that I'd Love her and I want to marry her because that's the truth of it Uh women am I right you got me wonder woman I really just want to take a shit in your invisible plane because I want to see if my shit is invisible when it goes in the Bolt it's gonna be otherwise you would see it I'd rather Drag off in the toilet. No just this that see people like an invisible place like a man standing in air and Yeah, yes, but you know load it which is I won't go flying with the wind it's in the plane right shoot like a normal I'm not I'm drunk off in planes when he's Ends up being the same as you were in your bedroom or your bathroom. She must have one of those waterless toilets Well because you see the water exactly You can't you can't not see the water but see the shit That's the thing that when they do the cartoon of Wonder Woman you can see her in the plane You can't see the plane that's not how it goes obviously.

It's really there It's just got a force field that makes magic blend in to the to the zone. It's really there It's just got a collage collage She wouldn't be able to use the controls if they were actually invisible It's not worth the outside is invisible when you're in there you can see does it not work for liking did you say cloaking? Yeah, yeah, does it not work for organic living breathing things is that the explanation and why you can't because the seats and the engine and everything Become invisible once they're behind the future lines, right? But you can see her so is it like is it like is that one of the real the real invisible plane is it's a Yeah, when you go in the plane, it's completely visible You see the toilet you see the handles the steering wheel all that stuff But when it flies off when you're outside of it you can walk right up to it hit it with your head and not see it But you see Wonder Woman from the outside.

No, you don't that's what the cartoons ruin It's closing when they show the cartoon being making fun of one which I don't appreciate But she's not when you see her flying a plane you do not see her flying a plane the what the airplane is completely invisible on the TV Show I thought you could see her in the plane Linda Carter was like this. Yeah, yeah Oh, now maybe that was just because it was a 1970s TV. Yeah, they really have that up Invisible plane ever I think they needed her cleavage on screen every possible moment. She was definitely like absolutely tune in worthy hot at that point Yeah, and for some time to follow I feel like it's not a witty coming I feel like it's still trends like She's harder than Wonder Woman.

No, no, yeah, look at it He's one of them she when she did the spin thing. It was a lame. It was like a slow spin Are you talking about Linda Carter Wonder Woman or Gal Gadot? No, I don't know who I don't know who I only know one one woman Because I listen I find Whitney very woman either all people Wonder Woman the one from the movies the recent movies the one from TV.

Oh, no one shut up That's not Wonder Woman. That's just some turd that sucks off famous people rich people to be wondering I'm talking about Wonder Woman. Yeah, that's pretty damn like appealing. Yeah, I'm not saying she's not I'm just saying I got a thing for the coming Alan something about her.

Oh, Dan coming And there's this unlike her butt when he's like shredded like she gets shredded for comedy shows and then she has like little ads and stuff I don't know her that well. This was fat. I don't know what need that Well, she can do a TV show with my wife, you know, so I'm kind of living normal life, but not just on stage I feel like Whitney Cummings is one of those people who burns an extraordinary man of calories just being awake like she's so 11 I'm not I'm saying a chill. Yes, she chills She likes horses and cats and stuff and she hangs out and feeds goats super chill like she's crazy smart I was very impressed by her like a offstage She's the most impressive woman I've met Hmm.

Oh, you never met Linda Carter or Lizzo they There's a photo of her that goes viral from time to time What she and like some women's magazine or GQ or something in the 90s and she's wearing an evening gown And she's with her kids and she's still like ludicrous I always I mean, maybe it's fetishistic for me But not only now when I was in my teens and 20s I found that so like I can't control myself hot like the 40 50 year old 60 or sometimes six year old woman who was still smoking That was like I can't I have to go beat off on to me and it's to be still it's one of the flight attendants on the plane over here She had to say off to her I did beat off on the plane on the water because you told to it Mmm. No, but I'm sure she factored in a lot of it's just like when I have three hours of time to myself I can't go do stuff. I'm like, why not that seems very private to you know, I make sure to clean up Where do you shoot it? No ball.

I put up the seat so that even if in worse circumstances, no one would sit on my yeah I'm just gonna say this every time. Why not just into a tissue? I never it's one of those things I think you you kind of get fond of how you grew up doing it I never I always did it in the toilet or the shower and just let it fly yeah, and you know so I guess It's like a little like win for you when it splashes in toilet water. Yeah, especially now.

All right now I've got it. I'm even more repulsed, but now I get it. Well, I'm not I definitely find a Pleasure out of a particularly for digital. I see As I'm getting older, I feel like it's just like a sign of variety or something.

I'm like well Yeah, so got all right all right well before we wrap this up We do have any signatures somebody texted me and said they love cathode and that he F's in In a bunch of other F bums in it all right, so I just do yeah, yeah And pretty sure it's probably yeah Listen if you're judging by my DMS, it's probably he said he loves you because you you have and then people don't know this because we used to be Huge big giant show very popular on Sirius X and you probably haven't heard of it It's kind of an outdated format of how to listen to shows, but We'd had a think as you know He was on this other thing terrestrial radio, which is another thing you probably haven't heard of But dr. Drew Penske because he's on your mum's house You would have heard of him because he's he somehow he may have very pro from being terrestrial to be a very spicy Podcaster he's a powerhouse he's on MTV a lot too that too, so but he did a show called love line with Mike Catholic great remember Adam Corolla yeah, they fired him and then my They didn't he left he left he left and he went to podcasting and he became the biggest podcast in the world and then Joe Rogan ate his anus But he's still good. He's still great, but we we've had cathode would and we thought we would do sorry YouTube a thing called fuck line So for cathode being here. We thought we'd bring it back.

It's been hell on oh a couple years at least yeah Like five probably pre pandemic. I would yeah. Oh, yeah, I'd find four or five years Yeah, so it's a big thing. It was a big sorry.

It was a big thing before you know everybody ate us But we're still here god damn it and we're gonna do it right now My boyfriend says my nipples have started to smell ooh Not wow not right is new not right out of the shower But pretty much all the rest of the time smells like off milk or smells like BO it doesn't actually say I'll tell you the All thing it doesn't I don't smell anything. I don't really wear bras I have small boobs, but the boob areas of my tops seem like they smell okay on the other hand I don't know why he would make that up is it possible? He is telling the truth. I would rather not ask my girlfriends to sniff my tits I will say this this is a very hard question answer without her to say like boy Do I wish I could smell those boobs if she was a runner maybe she's your taste I mean there's so much I need to have children did she breastfeed are you know?

Maybe she's 20 and she's not I should might have been very honest. Yeah one thing I will say he's not lying It's a way to know I'm not you though. It's a pretty evil comeback though. Just be like yo you're nipplestick No, and they don't and you're just like trying to get her back for like No, I'm a guy who would go there to just a harm his wife to hurt his wife would go with your Vashtings.

There's no way like your nipples You know man makes that up if he said you're bad and they could I might steal that you know like someone I'm like I'm so unique. I've never even heard of this idea But you can easily inspect yourself for a vaginal odor the boob thing would be a little bit harder Yeah, but I do think women are particularly sensitive to that especially if a man were to be like true It's the smell is every one time about a lady and then she blew me into like oh my god Do I smell like that oh and I was like this uh, yeah Harvard girl What does that make like she actually had a book on how to pick up white guys? She was a she was not she was not what but she was just like it's a bad day And I was like yeah people have bad days like get it that big deal wasn't bother me. I could write that book I'll look how to pick up white guys be hot.

Yeah, well now white guys typically don't have like a lot of like with things I guys are intimidated by black guys have thing well his man guys typically have a thing They'll they're also it just mostly open-minded, but black guys fan of guys typically like thicker women You know like white guys are just like I if you're attractive I'd prefer this or that but you're good if you want to pick up this white guy be attractive that seems to work Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna lie I'm a little bit intimidated, but I just look I'm intimidated by old pretty ladies I just need an eye you give me that look and I know that it's okay. I think I somehow have gotten over that I think from being married you naturally have a it's like Someone who has in a certain situation like they have nothing to lose right? Yeah, there was always as a single man Even if it was a crazy situation where I would think this I was always someone in the back of my head like I Disattractive woman, maybe I could have sex with her. Yeah, and it would alter my behavior Right inevitably.

Yeah, and now I do think that I've just somehow become a little bit more appealing to women because I can act I can easily see and feel that this woman's attractive, but I I've I've written that off so I'd start to kind of be myself You think sometimes being insecure helps ladies like you because you would like this is a chance to be whatever hookup Anyway, so I'm just gonna act like a normal person I think if you're hot and have money that would be attractive to a woman But I think unfortunately a lot of outward vulnerability from guys is pretty unappealing regardless of what we're doing We're not very smooth. You got it's like this weird thing where you're super insecure you're super confident And it's like those are the two worst angles. You got to be in the middle You know you got to believe in yourself, but you can't be too pumped on yourself unless you're going for a certain girl But a girl that goes for a guy that's super pumped on himself is is a trick-ass So I also think you're on something there and it's more about just be a real human being Yeah, I got that mask someone who is always hyper confident is wearing a mask It's always Mr. Email Man staring at you like I mean the worst is not you're not you're putting your portraying some character Yeah, humans are all in all levels of the middle Also the people you do appeal to when you have a mask on are almost invariably people who themselves are wearing that So about the potentially smelly tits.

I think she's got some dodgy dots Yeah, yeah, cuz I've seen a lady one time she was squirting milk out of a boobies in an elevator Yeah, she wasn't pregnant all of those little stuff when Drew would be sitting next to me and we would get a question about odor Yeah, pretty much down the line. Yeah, what regardless of part of body gender or whatever it was some hormonal thing and if it's your boobs I think tallies on I mean that seems reasonable about this angle catherwood You're not stinky the person smelling you is is a pussy nose Maybe if you smell like if you smell like B.O. and stuff It's hot, you know because sex like an animal is the hottest sex you can have and animals are stinky because they don't ever shout And that's why when you have stinky sex. It's like animalistic, you know Sometimes like things you step things into things and things fly out juices and stuff and it's all stinky and everyone's like Hey is all messy and you know peeing on things and stuff.

Yeah, I mean animal sex. You know like get I don't care Who I mean see if I can just I'm German. Well, you don't have to be German these days that internet got us over here But you just I mean sometimes sticky sex you just got to like Embrace it, you know, yeah, so you're saying the arch is more about the observer than the artist I'm saying sometimes I got a friend. He's real stinky.

He was a he's a trans man in the stinky year He is the potter it is but it wasn't like that first. I was like dang first time you got the cars like whoa Crazy and then like a year later. I was like man if I ever smell that I'm ready to go It's almost like a jump starter to me if anybody had not all be oh it's a certain be oh where my dick is or has already taken over What I'm doing. Yeah, I'm no longer here I mean I mean I'm not even have a couple of comments, but it wasn't me you are not talking to me my penis is like Yeah, yeah, yeah, just say some smart do that whatever just get in the stink whatever you do get in the stink That's what I feel like I was smelt all I walked in I had been to a while I was like oh watch out for that boner dude like a seven-grade dance.

Oh, yeah I didn't mean to turn you on I know next question wait My wife has slowly but surely gotten really into lesbian porn hell yeah I don't mind I actually think it's pretty hot, but three time the more I think about it. She definitely is a tomboy She literally only wears dresses when she absolutely has to I'm starting to think I might be missing something is my wife more of a lesbian Than a heterosexual what a homophobic thought no, I just think it's a guy Mo you gotta remember Jason like and a loved one and like me a lot of this is like most people That's why we're doing this are not exposed to stuff the same way Like I'll never forget totally will as a man who's married to beautiful Asian lady. We might appreciate this We got a coffee. He was from rural, rural, Ohio This literally I'm in par for you, but it's literally the call he's like so I have a I had an Asian girlfriend and I loved her But she's moving away.

I'm keeps calling you. He's like, uh, what do I do? What the fuck you do? What do you mean?

What do you do? What the heck you and he's like why I really like Asian women? I'm like God bless you. Good show.

He's like what do I do? Where can I and for a guy like me who grew up in a world where like That's literally an insane thing to say because I grew up where there was equally as much Mandarin as there was Spanish as there was English I couldn't understand I was like dude get it whatever Southwest flight or something You know the spirit airlines you can afford go to LAX go about 15 miles east and your head will blow off your neck But my point being that I'm going to Asia Pointing it's like that that guy's experience was and I think that he may have zero homophobic feelings is like he has no clue he has no Knowledge or experience with being with lesbians and and gay people and so a lot of people's comments and stuff comes from general Navitate or or ignorance to adopt much more so than I think hates sometimes. Yeah, yeah I don't think it's a hate thing, but it is if you are a lesbian it is degrading you don't mean it It's kind of like when white guys say stupid racist things. They don't know it's racist I got I got a black friend or something.

I mean, you don't know People go yeah, we've heard that one before I have to say that with I think I'm gonna watch this lesbian porn that doesn't nowadays especially I don't think it means much because it's funny Every dude thinks he's gay lesbian porn nowadays typically has Usually hotter chicks and it doesn't have male porn stars, which I just think even if a woman's crazy hetero a lot of women find them Unappealing like male porn stars. Yeah, just like their behavior and stuff is and whereas lesbian porn tends to even if it's not how the women Involved feel they make it look more appealing to a female I just think that you know guys some guys so most guys so bad bad and bad clueless not trying to like do anything for the Lady just sort of doing what they're doing and women when they hook up with each other not all the time They can do the same thing but more often than us They're more sensitive to the persons the other person's needs and wants and they kind of you know They read what they like and what they don't like and a lot of guys don't a lot of guys just pound away You know like I hook up with everybody and I can just tell like guys You know not everybody but a lot of guys just want to get it in there and start pounding yeah girls Kyle driving Wow, they really are driving. Yeah, that is a good one, dude You know they and I think if you're somebody that is Intersex more than the average person you want to have good sex if you're having bad sex You're not no longer interested in it because you know what it's like to have good sex and oftentimes girls that are Gonna hook up with each other they just I don't know whenever I watch it not all the time But most of the time they kind of know what they're doing with each other a little better, you know It's a little bit more There's a lot more finesse involved in it It's a lot of like you know rubbing different things not just like go for the put like do just go for the postman like I'm telling you I've done things you get closer to the post and then you go back and go like some toes now It does things to him you got taught the person yeah Yeah, you got to tell me like maybe I go. Ah actually foot massage and they're like what is happening and then by the time you're in there It's yours Yeah, let's do that in 20-30 now you gotta get the battle one more I don't know anybody doesn't want me to talk to But I'm more gagging on cock good.

It's like with Mike Catherine My girlfriend likes calling me daddy in bed here or there is fine every time not so much yes I can talk to her and I'm sure she will work with me to cut down on that But I still know she finds that really hot and I really do not help me think this is less creepy than I currently think it is That's like he's a dad because that's anything that crosses me when I get cold daddy is is My kids call me dad. Yeah, right so it's not but when they were younger they call me daddy right so when I was younger and I go call me daddy. I'd be like can you not be a choice. Yeah And I think it just from my perusing of Monography nowadays the girls that are clearly younger in early 20s and stuff They that's a big thing they do that a lot and it was really rare in you know 15 20 years ago I so I don't know if it maybe he's from our generation.

It's just like I know like that it is it's strange Yeah, unless she's Latina That like I believe in the poppy like I love that I love that you're because I really don't want to behave like my Popular start smoking cigars while we have sex. Yeah, it's like I think it's like um I have a really I actually had a talk with these kids the other day I live ways to these dudes and they're 91's 21 and they're both Latino get a daddy and someone say that no I do get that believe it just check my DMS for that. Um and they call everyone that they're cool with the Edward They that is like like I say dude. Hey dude.

Stop man. There's like oh this My embalm right here got me hooked up with this program. I'm like and so I literally pull myself I think it's kind of wait a what got let you know there That's a malay shit though. It is it's still not cool.

No, I know I'm just saying though like that Like I don't care if you're the big thing I had I had seen it, but I also you gotta run up I was in Texas when this happened um granted was like it was this was in center city Austin But um and I just was like guys I know Uh, this is cool with you. Mm, and I actually think it's kind of amazing that that it's gotten to this point that there's That just really has no value for your generation I was like but it's way not cool for me like it kind of gives me goosebumps every time you say like if a black guy punches They're in the head. I'm not saying anything But it's like he's even with their black friends same with like when I was in Venice you'd see like Venice high school could be sitting out It'd be black dude two white guys and a Hispanic guy and they're just like hey, hey, hey, and you're like, uh, Whoa, all right. I guess it's just different now.

Yeah, I let a gay boy's called me daddy because I'm old now So I'm daddy to everybody. I would say gay boys call me daddy more than girls do like it's almost and I don't like Girlie gay guys anymore because of it like it's kind of on me out the daddy and zaddy Okay, I would you took the word that I'm out. I get zaddy on DM's a lot of that. It's like a sexy older daddy Okay, okay.

No, it's hot. No, it's hot. No, it's hot. No, it's just I don't know something about it.

Mm zaddy. I get a lot of like All right, that's a good thing Yeah, I kind of got a boyfriend not really like cuz I'm okay, but as close as I can get I call him an f And bomb f bomb, but I've only done it like three times and it's just a joke I mean if you're gonna go that hard take the um the anal c bomb route where step button from anal c bomb the band Um went he literally just thought like what are the two words I can go? I'm lost There's a grandcore band. Yeah, and their name is anal and it runs with bunt Oh, yeah, anal sebum is an easy one.

Yeah, anal sebum. Yeah, anal sebum. See you next Tuesday And uh when people interviewed Seth Putnam the the front man principle songwriter of anal se um He said I just I literally just thought I what can I do to collect the two most hideous words? And we tried and I had like a diagram and putting n word and and f word you know, we said a lot of anal sebum If you're going to nf you might as well nc because that's I'm back from that.

Yeah, but the sebum Doesn't I'm saying the two most offensive things he is black and he is gay. Yeah, he's not a sebum So it doesn't work And I said it in an in an insane and aggressive way. I said it in a loving way And I also said it in a way that allowed it to be funny And then he tried to say it to back to me the other day and I was like no, it's not It's not nf. It's fn It sounds better if you do that.

Sorry other way around here, but The sebum is uh sebum is mellow for me. It's no to me. It's not if I hear it seriously If I hear it, comedically, it's fine. Yeah, it doesn't do it I when I hear a sebum in the wild like a guy's literally calling a woman do it like I'm like whoa whoa like this is I want to do a whole one level.

I don't do that. Yeah, it's more of a I only call my friends Or if I say it in an aggressive way That's bad. I'm gonna punch you. Yes, man.

That's that's my father I can hear him as soon as it comes out. I may I immediately get embarrassed and uh, and don't like myself Not that much anymore. Yeah, sometimes in the car if you cut me off, you might be a bit of a no, that's fine Yeah, but he didn't hear it. Yeah, I say anything goes in the car.

I say useless. You know, I say sebum She's being yeah, bunty. I say I will Oh, that's mellow for no reason this chick was being all bunty to me. I also come home to my wife That's weird.

I yeah, it does soften it quite a bit. I don't know how but it does right. Yeah, it's like how it's done to that first I I will say I maybe it's a long island thing. Maybe it's not him as an innovator, but running the limo driver was the first guy I ever use it to actually describe a Okay, I know of a giant.

Yeah, yeah, he's like yeah, yeah, he's what he did. Yeah, he's like whoa Yeah, he's not he's like a talking vomit He's the most disgusting dude. I've ever seen oh, he's mouthwise anyway, have you uh Drew says that um runny's quite different not on the micro he was always nice to me. Yeah, he never called you the sea bomb Definitely like a character because he I feel like it's more like he's from a place where and I don't know Michael You might know more because it's near where you grow up But he reminds Jersey people that are older remind me of bogans in Australia in the 80s where sea bombs were flying everywhere because We were found out disgusting dudes.

Yeah, I'm sure he and I ran in pretty different circles. Yeah, but you still know those Yeah, and I also think there's just like it's a gear that you can slip into yeah, you know what I mean That's like it's like baskin robins has got like what 31 flavors or whatever it is That's one of the flavors and what it sounds like he's not playing a made-up person like a Ned or whatever He's just able to just live in pistachio when he's on that and that's one particular gear of lung island That's why I guess we went real long. Yes, everybody if you want to see more of the Jason I'll show we have a patreon patreon.com slash alice mate where we do two more hours of show live you calling and hang out with us Right now we've got a leaf so you're on the youtube iTunes thing Make sure you like and describe make sure you actually click on the thing and make comments on youtube help us out And then also sign up to the patreon. All right good.

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