EPISODE · May 6, 2025 · 32 MIN
Brand Is a Business Pillar, Not a Marketing Expense - Bill Kenney from Focus Lab : 9
from Beyond The Billboard
Brand isn’t just a logo or a marketing line item—it’s the foundation of your business. In this episode of Beyond the Billboard, host Greg Wise sits down with Bill Kenney, CEO and partner at Focus Lab, to unpack what it really means to build a brand that sticks. Drawing from 15+ years leading a B2B branding agency, Bill explains why brand is not a marketing expense, but a business pillar. He outlines how performance-only thinking creates a short-term hamster wheel, and how companies can break free by investing in identity, culture, and long-term affinity. From Series B tech startups to M&A transformations, Bill shares what signals show a company is ready for a rebrand—and what red flags say otherwise. For marketers trying to earn executive trust, this conversation is a roadmap to internal alignment and sustainable growth.👤 Guest BioBill Kenney is the CEO and partner at Focus Lab, a B2B brand agency helping high-growth startups and venture-backed companies define and express their boldest, most original selves. He brings more than 15 years of experience evolving businesses from generic design shops into strategic branding partners. Bill is also the author of Conquer Your Rebrand, which outlines Focus Lab’s full branding process for CMOs and CEOs.👉 Connect with Bill on LinkedIn📌 What We CoverWhy performance marketing alone creates a rat race of short-term returnsThe evolution from creative-led marketing to finance-driven metrics—and back againHow brand drives recruitment, internal alignment, and long-term customer affinityWhat brand really means beyond the website—"it's literally everything"Focus Lab’s analogy of branding as building a house, not just decorating oneKey pain points that signal it’s time for a rebrand (e.g., M&A, growth-stage gaps)What happens when internal teams don’t have the time or alignment for brand workReal client stories from Totango, TrustedSec, and MarketoWhy Bill thinks of LinkedIn as his own out-of-home billboard🔗 Resources MentionedScrappy ABM PodcastConquer Your Rebrand by Bill KenneyFocus LabLow-Tech, High-Impact Account-Based MarketingIf you’re ready to trade expensive, tech-heavy account-based marketing for a repeatable, revenue-driving ABM program, check out Scrappy ABM. Led by a team of Scrappy ABM experts, they specialize in low-budget plays and programs that deliver high impact—no shiny tools required. Scrappy ABM has built account-based programs that have delivered millions in revenue, and you can build your first successful ABM program with their help.Start with a pilot program or launch an account-based podcast. Learn more at scrappyabm.com. Let's get scrappy.
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