Breaking Barriers in Border Leadership: A Conversation with Kathleen Scudder & Patricia McGurk

What does it take to lead at the highest levels of federal law enforcement—and to do so as trailblazing women in a field long dominated by men? In this month's Coach’s Corner: Leadership Unplugged, Laura Bennett sits down with Kathleen Scudder, former Senior Executive of U.S. Border Patrol, and Patricia McGurk, the first woman to serve as Chief Patrol Agent in both the San Diego and Yuma Sectors. Together, Kathleen and Patricia open up about the grit, resilience, and integrity it takes to manage some of the most complex security challenges facing our nation—from transnational criminal organizations to humanitarian crises at the border. They share stories from their 20+ year journeys through U.S. Border Patrol, the personal sacrifices of leadership, and how they navigated the weight of responsibility while raising families, building partnerships, and breaking glass ceilings. This conversation isn’t just about border security—it’s about leadership under pressure, innovation in the face of crisis, and redefining what it means to "have it all" as women leaders. Whether you’re in government, business, or simply navigating your own leadership path, you’ll walk away inspired by their courage, wisdom, and humanity. If you’ve ever wondered what true resilience and service-driven leadership look like, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. To connect with Kathleen, visit her LinkedIn page here. To connect with Patricia, visit her LinkedIn page here.