Breaking Free from Covert Narcissism: A Conversation with Marie Birtel

What this episode covers

<p>In this soul-awakening episode of <em><strong>The</strong></em> <em><strong>Mindful Living</strong></em><em> with Sana</em>, we are joined by Marie Birtel—psychological counselor, journalist, and author of <em>I Love You When</em>. Together, we dive deep into the world of covert narcissism, betrayal trauma, and toxic family systems. Marie vulnerably shares her personal story and professional insight on why so many of us stay in emotionally abusive relationships, and how to begin the healing process. This episode is a must-listen for anyone feeling trapped by emotional manipulation or struggling to reclaim their voice. Healing begins with awareness—and this conversation is your starting point.</p><p><strong>About the Guest:</strong><br><strong>Marie Birtel</strong> is a trilingual psychological counselor, author, and advocate for survivors of covert narcissistic abuse. Based in France and Germany, she empowers women worldwide through her book <em>I Love You When</em> and personalized trauma recovery coaching. With firsthand experience and professional expertise, Marie helps others identify destructive patterns and find the strength to break free.</p><p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Covert narcissism is subtle, manipulative, and often disguised as concern or victimhood.</p></li><li><p>Betrayal trauma by a parent or caregiver is one of the deepest wounds—but healing is possible.</p></li><li><p>You don’t need your parents to change to begin your own recovery.</p></li><li><p>Finding the right therapist or support system is crucial—healing isn’t linear, but it is transformational.</p></li><li><p>You are not crazy, and you are not alone. Choosing peace is an act of radical self-love.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Connect with Marie Birtel:</strong></p><ul><li><p><strong>Website &amp; Freebie Guide:</strong> <a href="https://mariebirtel.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">mariebirtel.com</a></p></li><li><p>Offers trauma-informed counseling in English, French, and German to clients around the world.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Want to be a guest on </strong><em><strong>The</strong></em> <em><strong>Mindful Living</strong></em><strong>? DM on PM:</strong></p><ul><li><p>DM Me Here: <a href="https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/avik">https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/avik</a></p></li><li><p>Subscribe To Newsletter: <a href="https://healthymindbyavik.substack.com/">https://healthymindbyavik.substack.com/</a></p></li><li><p>Join Community: <a href="https://nas.io/healthymind">https://nas.io/healthymind</a></p></li></ul><p><strong>Stay Tuned And Follow Us!</strong></p><ul><li><p>YouTube - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@healthymind-healthylife">https://www.youtube.com/@healthymind-healthylife</a></p></li><li><p>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/podhealth.club/">https://www.instagram.com/podhealth.club/</a></p></li><li><p>Threads - <a href="https://www.threads.net/@podhealth.club">https://www.threads.net/@podhealth.club</a></p></li><li><p>Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/podcast.healthymind">https://www.facebook.com/podcast.healthym