Breaking Free from Legalism | Apostle Pagani Interview on Toxic Church Control

Apostle Alexander Pagani joins Kathy DeGraw for a powerful conversation exposing legalism, toxic church control, and manipulation in the body of Christ. Discover how to discern truth, walk in grace, and find freedom through the Holy Spirit.   Purchase Kathy's book Healed at Last – Overcome Sickness to Receive your Physical Healing on Amazon https://a.co/d/6a6mt8w or at: https://www.kathydegrawministries.org/healed-at-last/   Purchase Anointing Oil with a prayer cloth that Kathy has personally mixed and prayed over on Kathy's Website or Amazon. Order anointing oil by Kathy on Amazon look for her brand here https://amzn.to/3PC6l3R or Kathy DeGraw Ministries https://www.kathydegrawministries.org/product-category/oils/    Training, Mentorship and Deliverance! Personal coaching, deliverance, e-courses, training for ministry, and mentorships! https://www.kathydegrawministries.org/training/# In this riveting episode, Kathy DeGraw sits down with Apostle Alexander Pagani to discuss his groundbreaking new book on legalism and toxic church systems. Legalism has infiltrated the body of Christ, leaving many bound by manipulation, intimidation, and fear rather than walking in the freedom of the Spirit. Together, they expose how legalism operates in churches, leadership, and even in the fivefold ministry. Apostle Pagani shares powerful real-life stories of believers trapped under religious control and reveals how the Holy Spirit brings deliverance, healing, and grace. This discussion is more than theory—it's a prophetic call for believers to awaken, break free from shackles, and return to a true relationship with Jesus. Whether you've been wounded by church hurt, struggled under religious bondage, or questioned if you're in a toxic spiritual environment, this episode will give you the tools and revelation to discern truth and walk in freedom. Learn how to honor God, listen to the Holy Spirit, and live in the fullness of His love and grace. #Deliverance #LegalismExposed #ApostlePagani #KathyDeGraw #ChurchHurt **Connect with Apostle Pagani** https://alexanderpagani.live/Get his new book Manipulated at https://a.co/d/bYm5I1n  Released October 21, 2025 **Connect with Us** - Website: https://www.kathydegrawministries.org/  - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kathydegraw/  - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kathydegraw/    Podcast - Subscribe to our YouTube channel and listen to Kathy's Podcast called Prophetic Spiritual Warfare, or on Spotify at https://open.spotify.com/show/3mYPPkP28xqcTzdeoucJZu  or Apple podcasts at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/prophetic-spiritual-warfare/id1474710499    **Recommended Resources:** - Receive a free prayer pdf on Warfare Prayer Declarations at https://kathydegrawministries.org/declarations-download  - Kathy's training, mentoring and e-courses on Spiritual Warfare, Deliverance and the Prophetic: https://training.kathydegrawministries.org/  - Healed At Last ~ Overcome Sickness and Receive your Physical Healing: https://www.kathydegrawministries.org/healed-at-last/  - Mind Battles – Root Out Mental Triggers to Release Peace!: https://www.kathydegrawministries.org/product/mind-battles-pre-order-available-january-2023/  -Kathy has several books available on Amazon or kathydegrawministries.org   **Support Kathy DeGraw Ministries:** - Give a one-time love offering or consider partnering with us for $15, $35, $75 or any amount! Every dollar helps us help others!  - Website: https://www.kathydegrawministries.org/donate/   - CashApp $KDMGLORY - Venmo @KD-Ministries - Paypal.me/KDeGrawMinistries or donate to email [email protected] - Mail a check to: Kathy DeGraw Ministries ~ PO Box 65 ~ Grandville MI 49468