Брэд Питт против Ахиллеса: что осталось от Илиады в блокбастере «Троя»? Иван Семьян. Ученые против мифов 16-1 episode artwork

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Брэд Питт против Ахиллеса: что осталось от Илиады в блокбастере «Троя»? Иван Семьян. Ученые против мифов 16-1

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Фильм "Троя" снят по "Илиаде" Гомера? Достоверно показаны воины бронзового века? Ахилл - милосердный воин-поединщик? Подпишитесь на новые эпизоды ► https://clck.ru/H4hGu Поддержите нас на Patreon ► https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?c=1920060 ================ Научно-просветительский Форум «Ученые против мифов-16» https://antropogenez.ru/forum16-itogi/   13-14 ноября 2021 г. Часть-1. Иван Семьян — археолог, руководитель Ассоциации «Археос», заведующий лабораторий экспериментальной археологии НОЦ Евразийских исследований ЮУрГУ, реконструктор древних технологий. Доклад «Брэд Питт против Ахиллеса: что осталось от Илиады в блокбастере “Троя”?» Вредный оппонент: Дмитрий Завильгельский — кинорежиссер-документалист, призер отечественных и зарубежных кинофестивалей, автор книги «Как снимать документальное кино». 0:00 Начало 2:54 Как ты считаешь, как Ахилл бы отреагировал, попав в современный кинотеатр и увидев тот экранный образ, который создали ему потомки? 4:00 Зачем обсуждать историчность художественных фильмов? 4:42 Миф 1. «Война началась из-за любви Париса и Елены» 11:48 Мифы об Ахилле 22:05 Мифы о воинах бронзового века 31:10 Основан ли фильм на «Илиаде»? 31:39 Выводы 32:25 Рекомендуемая литература 33:25  Дискуссия со «вредным» оппонентом — кинорежиссером Дмитрием Завильгельским 44:24 Голосование зрителей «Как вы оцениваете “вредность” оппонента (Дмитрий Завильгельский)?» 45:04 Ответы на вопросы слушателей 58:34 Выбор лучшего вопроса 1:00:40 Результаты голосования о  “вредности” оппонента 📖 Стенограмма доклада: https://vk.com/@antropogenez_ru-brad-pitt-protiv-ahillesa ================ Организатор форума: АНТРОПОГЕНЕЗ.РУ Запись, монтаж: "Лаборатория Научных Видео"   @ScienceVideoLab   Площадка в Москве предоставлена НИТУ "МИСиС" Юридическая поддержка: адвокатское бюро CTL https://abctl.ru​ 🦈 GEN.RU: поставщик уникальных принтов и гаджетов для форума https://stopmyth.gen.ru​ Ведущий: Александр Соколов, редактор АНТРОПОГЕНЕЗ.РУ Музыка: Константин Устинович, Дмитрий Денисов https://vk.com/alt_sound​ Дизайн: Ирина Фролова, Ирина Галенкова Стенограмма: Елена Королева, Екатерина Тигры Диктор: Евгений Прохоров  Видео-заставка: Виталий Краусс, Тимур Низов Анимация: Тимур Низов Скетч: Юлия Родина Видеорежиссер: Виталий Краусс Звукорежиссер: Ксения Аблез Оператор-постановщик: Пётр Стерликов Продюсер: Георгий Соколов Координатор: Мариша Эрина ======================== ⚠ Поддержать проект: http://antropogenez.ru/how-to-help/

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