British Left-Coded Patriotism - Horatio Gould, James Bloodworth

JOIN US ON SUBSTACK: substack.com/@wtfisleft - Early Access to Ad-Free Extended Interviews - Ask our Guests Questions - LIVEs with Jovan + Freddie - WL Book Club + Community Discussion - Articles + Exclusive Content ********************************************** Now this is cricket. Horatio Gould, comedian + podcast virtuoso (and OG fan of What's Left), joins us in the studio with author James Bloodworth (Hired, Lost Boys) guest-hosting. Post Davos, Western elites are checking their bank accounts and stock portfolios, considering the premium paid for their unerring loyalty to the market. Their rationale is clear: follow the wind and back the military 'might-is-right' agenda of Donald Trump, or argue with the sails and be blown off course. They don't need any invitation to make hay while the sun shines. But amongst the more seaworthy, there was cause for reflection. Mark Carney, the Canadian PM, had done the unthinkable: made a relatively memorable Davos speech. That's harsh. It was actually a very good speech – a candid indictment of the hypocrisy of the Western liberal 'rules-based' order, who better to tell it than one of the lead hypocrites. Accepting that the US and its allies had told the world a useful fiction to advance its interests, Carney argued that such a narrative can no longer stand up to scrutiny. The 'new' rules are dead. Long live the old rules: bully and win. Of course, there is a rejoinder. Cowering to bullies keeps their fiction alive. But standing up to them, collectively, offers another path. Carney made it clear to the elites, deep into their thus-far profitable hedge, that a choice remains on the table. Middle powers must stand side by side if they are to have any collective bargaining power. We've been making this argument since September (please see our episode with Hassan Damluji). And we should be clear, the costs are real: decoupling from the US and taking on a world of hard power alone will be very dangerous. But what is at stake is bigger than us as individuals. It's about Britain being in charge of her own destiny. It's about sovereignty; the power to choose at all. And it's at this juncture that every Brit should be considering what makes us British and how we stand stronger together. Yes, it's incredibly trite to talk about how divided our society is. But I think it's a edifying to be anti-polarisation. We're on an island, wouldn't it be better if we all got along? Chapters: 00:00 - Intro 00:30 - Politics and comedy 22:55 - Most right-wing views as a leftie35:29 - What is masculinity? 39:56 - Do other world leaders have Trump's charisma? 50:41 - Who would join Trump's Board of Peace? 60:22 - Tories defecting to Reform and Trumpism in the UK 74:02 - Britain is a heritage trail for tourists 86:58 - What is the guiding light for left-wing politics?