Bruce Shapiro's America: Is Trump really negotiating with Iran?

Donald Trump told the press his Middle East special envoy Steve Witkoff and his son-in-law Jared Kushner conducted talks with Iran on Sunday. The US stock market rose sharply but fell again when Iran denied the talks. Now a Guardian report says Egypt has been assisting negotiations - so is Trump looking for an out? Meanwhile Congress has confirmed a new Homeland Secretary to replace the disgraced Kristi Noem, but Markwayne Mullin will have his hands full dealing with chaos as airports across America as Trump sends ICE agents in to replace workers affected by a go0vernmet shutdown. And the Pentagon loses its defence of media shut-out rules. Guest: Bruce Shapiro, contributing editor with The Nation magazine and Director of the Global Center for Journalism and Trauma. Producer: Catherine Zengerer