BTN Bites - Norm Spector on the truth of the Notwithstanding Clause

Did the framers of the Charter really believe that Section 33 of the Charter, known as the Notwithstanding Clause, should rarely if ever be used? Not according to Norm Spector who was in the room for many of the conversations. Listen as Norm explains what really happened and even how Pierre Trudeau promised to use the Notwithstanding Clause.