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Oct 21, 2026 12 min

Builders: The Goalposts Just Moved with Florence McGregor

from Build It Forward Hosted by Nick Falkoff and PRMEABL_

NESEA just turned 50. And according to Florence McGregor, that's not a moment to celebrate and coast. It's a moment to ask what's next. In this conversation on Build It Forward, recorded at NESEA BuildingEnergy Boston 2026, Nick Falkoff sits down with Flo, Executive Director of NESEA, in the middle of the conference floor for a wide-ranging conversation about what the organization has become, where it still needs to go, and what it means to build a community that can hold both technical excellence and genuine human vulnerability at the same time. They get into NESEA's incoming strategic plan and the priorities Flo hopes carry forward, including the organization's commitment to becoming more just, more sustainable, and actively anti-racist. The conversation also covers what this year's record student attendance means for the future of the industry, why the skills you can only learn in a room with other people matter as much as anything in a technical session, and how the Dumpster Fire Patriarchy workshop changed the way Nick thinks about his role as a builder and a leader. The conversation ends a little abruptly -- conference duties called -- but not before covering a lot of ground worth watching. For resources on ICE preparedness and know your rights guidance, visit: studiohpdc.org/more/know-your-rights-immigration-enforcement-preparedness 00:42 Construction as a patriarchal industry 01:26 What patriarchy costs the people who practice it 02:40 Sharing mistakes and the NESEA culture of vulnerability 03:24 NESEA's next five year strategic plan 04:16 Climate justice, anti-racism, and the technical work 05:00 Welcoming a record number of students this year 06:02 What the keynote opened up 07:20 The skills you can only learn in a room 08:20 Orienting students to a professional community 10:33 NESEA as an incubator -- growing your team Connect with Florence McGregor and NESEA: nesea.org | IG: @neseaorg Work with Auburndale Builders on your high-performance build: [email protected] Music: Welcome to the Johnsons from the album Bird Mode by E*Lightning aka Jon Erickson, CPHB elightning.bandcamp.com Made with @PRMEABL #BuildItForward #AuburndaleBuilders #PassiveHouse #HighPerformanceBuilding #BuildingScience #GreenBuilding #NetZero #NESEA #BuildingCommunity #BuildingCulture #ClimateJustice

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  1. 0:42 Construction as a patriarchal industry
  2. 1:26 What patriarchy costs the people who practice it
  3. 2:40 Sharing mistakes and the NESEA culture of vulnerability
  4. 3:24 NESEA's next five year strategic plan
  5. 4:16 Climate justice, anti-racism, and the technical work
  6. 5:00 Welcoming a record number of students this year
  7. 6:02 What the keynote opened up
  8. 7:20 The skills you can only learn in a room
  9. 8:20 Orienting students to a professional community
  10. 10:33 NESEA as an incubator -- growing your team

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