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EPISODE · Nov 4, 2025 · 48 MIN

Building a Brand Without Burning Out (or Selling Out), with Jessica Lee, Founder & CEO of Modern Citizen

from Creative Got me · host Monique Ritter

Jessica Lee co-founded Modern Citizen in the middle of San Francisco’s VC frenzy and made a very different decision than most founders:She didn’t raise money.She didn’t chase growth at all costs.She built a brand slowly, intentionally, and on her own terms.In this episode, she shares the real story behind building a modern fashion brand without losing yourself in the process. We talk about bootstrapping, resilience, motherhood, leadership, and what it really means to build something that lasts.Timestamps:0:00 – Intro2:10 – Why Jessica turned down venture capital6:50 – Fashion isn’t software: why growth looks different9:30 – Valuation pressure vs. brand longevity12:30 – You can’t force customers to love you overnight16:00 – The fundraising bias founders don’t talk about18:00 – What resilience actually looks like in business21:00 – Building agility into your company from day one23:00 – Why Jessica shares her playbook with other founders25:15 – Scarcity mindset vs abundance mindset in DTC28:00 – Fast fashion, decision fatigue, and building a thoughtful customer experience32:00 – The role of AI in creative work (and where it doesn’t belong)36:00 – Motherhood, entrepreneurship, and ruthless prioritization41:00 – How to stay resourced while leading a company and raising kids47:00 – Building a culture of excellence on your own terms52:00 – Jessica’s definition of success (and why it matters)54:45 – Where to shop Modern Citizen

Jessica Lee co-founded Modern Citizen in the middle of San Francisco’s VC frenzy and made a very different decision than most founders:She didn’t raise money.She didn’t chase growth at all costs.She built a brand slowly, intentionally, and on her own terms.In this episode, she shares the real story behind building a modern fashion brand without losing yourself in the process. We talk about bootstrapping, resilience, motherhood, leadership, and what it really means to build something that lasts.Timestamps:0:00 – Intro2:10 – Why Jessica turned down venture capital6:50 – Fashion isn’t software: why growth looks different9:30 – Valuation pressure vs. brand longevity12:30 – You can’t force customers to love you overnight16:00 – The fundraising bias founders don’t talk about18:00 – What resilience actually looks like in business21:00 – Building agility into your company from day one23:00 – Why Jessica shares her playbook with other founders25:15 – Scarcity mindset vs abundance mindset in DTC28:00 – Fast fashion, decision fatigue, and building a thoughtful customer experience32:00 – The role of AI in creative work (and where it doesn’t belong)36:00 – Motherhood, entrepreneurship, and ruthless prioritization41:00 – How to stay resourced while leading a company and raising kids47:00 – Building a culture of excellence on your own terms52:00 – Jessica’s definition of success (and why it matters)54:45 – Where to shop Modern Citizen

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